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    TRUTH-POLITICS AND CATASTROPHIC WILDFIRES
    American Citizens need to stand-up to the current stupidity and form a united front against the idiots who think they know what’s best for everyone else, our natural resources, our schools and our local counties.
    BURNING UP THE WEST: FEDS, GREENS CAUSE CATASTROPHIC FIRES
    Albert Einstein once said that the definition of insanity is; doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results…
    September 8, 2014 over a year ago….
    AS Capt. William E. Simpson – USMM WROTE THIS, AND AS A RESULT OF YET ANOTHER ENVIRONMENTALIST INTERVENTION,
    NUMEROUS PERFECTLY GOOD WEST COAST DAMS ARE BEING EYED FOR REMOVAL!
    OF COURSE THIS MAKES PERFECT SENSE TO THESE UPSIDE-DOWN THINKING PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THAT THE WEST COAST IS SERIOUSLY SHORT ON WATER AS IT IS, AND NEEDS MORE DAMS, NOT LESS!
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    HISTORY TRUTH AND POLITICS
    FEBRUARY 26, 2013, THE HOUSE SUBCOMMITTEE ON PUBLIC LANDS AND ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATION HELD A HEARING PRESIDED OVER BY NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN DOC HASTINGS (R-WASH.) that turns out to have been very relevant to the current burning issue of our national forest management. The subcommittee heard from a number of witnesses who testified concerning the superiority of state-managed forest lands versus the federally managed forests.
    TRUTH ON FEBRUARY 26, 2013 REP. HASTINGS noted that the much smaller forests managed by Washington State “generate an average of $168 million annually, support construction of public elementary, middle school and high schools statewide, facilities at the state’s universities, and other state facilities and institutions.
    TRUTH ON FEBRUARY 26, 2013 In comparison, THE U.S. FOREST SERVICE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MANAGING OVER 9 MILLION ACRES OF FOREST LAND contained within seven different national forests in the State of Washington, yet harvests just 2 percent of the new growth, yielding a four-year average of only $589,000 in revenue.”
    TRUTH ON FEBRUARY 26, 2013 CHAIRMAN HASTINGS noted further:
    Rather than offering all-too-familiar rhetoric of how complying with one federal law or another “costs too much,” IT’S TIME FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO ADJUST HOW IT DOES BUSINESS, and honor its own STATUTORY RESPONSIBILITIES TO MANAGE THE FORESTS, INCLUDING ALLOWING SUFFICIENT TIMBER HARVESTS, THAT BENEFIT FORESTED COUNTIES AND THEIR SCHOOLS, AS WELL AS IMPROVE DECLINING FOREST HEALTH
    AND, REDUCE THE THREAT AND SOARING COSTS OF CATASTROPHIC WILDFIRE.
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    AUG 24, 2013 HISTORY TRUTH AND POLITICS ON CATASTROPHIC WILDFIRES FIRES
    BURNING UP THE WEST: FEDS, GREENS CAUSE CATASTROPHIC FIRES …
    Burning Up the West: Feds, Greens Cause Catastrophic Fires
    www.thenewamerican.com/…/environment/…/16396-burning-up-the-we…
    AUG 24, 2013 – Burning Up the West: Feds, Greens Cause Catastrophic Fires … radical environmentalists that have thwarted all reasonable attempts at proper forest …. HASTINGS pointed out that the federal Northwest Forest Plan for California, …
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    Sept. 8, 2014 HISTORY TRUTH AND POLITICS ON CATASTROPHIC WILDFIRES FIRES
    NORTHWEST WILDFIRES AND THE ‘GREEN’ ENVIRONMENTALIST
    NORTHWEST WILDFIRES AND THE ‘GREEN …
    www.survivalbased.com › Blog › Homesteading
    Sep 8, 2014 – The EPA, BLM, U.S. Forestry and their environmentalist (‘Green’) support base claim that they want to preserve habitat and save endangered .
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    TRUTH AND POLITICS SEPT 29, 2015
    DEADLY CATASTROPHIC WILDFIRES FIRES HAVE KILLED 9 PEOPLE
    UPDATED: MONDAY, 28, SEPTEMBER 2015 WASHINGTON – OREGON – CALIFORNIA
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    Northwest Large Fire Information Summary – NWCC :: Home
    gacc.nifc.gov/nwcc/…/fire_info.aspx
    National Interagency Fire Center
    (102 KB); 2014 MEDIA WILDFIRE COVERAGE GUIDELINES FOR OREGON AND WASHINGTON • Adobe Acrobat … UPDATED: MONDAY, 28TH SEPTEMBER 2015 at 07:19:57 AM …
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    TRUTH AND POLITICS CATASTROPHIC WILDFIRES FIRES
    California wildfires burn hundreds of homes – CNN.com
    www.cnn.com/2015/09/14/us/california-wildfires/
    Sep 14, 2015 – Northern California’s Valley Fire — one of several in the state — has killed 1 and … California wildfires rage, threatening lives and homes. By Greg Botelho and Dan Simon, CNN. Updated 1:51 AM ET, Tue September 15, 2015 ….. Already, hundreds of homes have been destroyed, and some 9,000 more are …
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    2015 TRUTH AND POLITICS – CATASTROPHIC WILDFIRES FIRES
    Northwest wildfires break records for cost, size this summer
    www.kgw.com/story/news/local/2015/06/…wildfire…/71264920/
    Sep 21, 2015 – Here’s a look at the latest Pacific Northwest wildfire information, updated daily. … Chelan Fires; First Creek Fire, Okanogan-Wenatchee NF, WA, 2015 Kari Greer/USFS …. wildfires. It started in mid-August and had burned 110,422 acres by … This wildfire destroyed at least 26 homes and prompted extended …
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    The comment below on catastrophic wildfires fires was posted on September 8, 2014
    I AM POSTING THIS DEADLY CATASTROPHIC WILDFIRES FIRES – TRUTH AND POLITICS COMMENT , AGAIN ON SEPT 29, 2015,
    IN PART, BECAUSE…. NINE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KILLED IN OUT OF CONTROL WILDFIRES IN 2015
    Three firefighters killed in Washington’s Twisp Fire – CNN.com
    www.cnn.com/2015/08/20/us/wildfires-western-states/
    Aug 20, 2015 – Three firefighters have died in a wildfire in north-central Washington, the state’s governor said on his website. Four firefighters were injured, …
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    Wildfires In Northern California Kill 6 People, Destroy Nearly …
    www.huffingtonpost.com/…/california-wildfire_55ff…
    Ten active wildfires in Northern California continue to threaten a thousand more homes. AP. Posted: 09/21/2015 06:42 AM EDT … Those fires killed five people, and on Sunday authorities announced that a body was found in the ashes of a …
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    Bottom line snippets
    NORTHWEST WILDFIRES AND THE ‘GREEN’ ENVIRONMENTALIST
    Posted on September 8, 2014
    THINKING AMERICANS NEED TO STAND-UP TO THE CURRENT STUPIDITY AND FORM A UNITED FRONT AGAINST THE IDIOTS WHO THINK THEY KNOW WHAT’S BEST FOR EVERYONE ELSE, OUR NATURAL RESOURCES, OUR SCHOOLS AND OUR LOCAL COUNTIES.
    WHILE THE GOOD PEOPLE OF SISKIYOU, JACKSON, JOSEPHINE AND KLAMATH COUNTIES ARE SUFFERING FROM RECORD HIGH UN-EMPLOYMENT AS THEY WATCH HELPLESSLY AS BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF TIMBER IS TURNED TO ASH EACH YEAR.
    September 8, 2014
    AS I WRITE THIS, AND AS A RESULT OF YET ANOTHER ENVIRONMENTALIST INTERVENTION,
    NUMEROUS PERFECTLY GOOD WEST COAST DAMS ARE BEING EYED FOR REMOVAL!
    OF COURSE THIS MAKES PERFECT SENSE TO THESE UPSIDE-DOWN THINKING PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THAT THE WEST COAST IS SERIOUSLY SHORT ON WATER AS IT IS, AND NEEDS MORE DAMS, NOT LESS!
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    An unedited comment
    NORTHWEST WILDFIRES AND THE ‘GREEN’ ENVIRONMENTALIST
    Posted on September 8, 2014 by Capt. William E. Simpson

    As I write this I am vexed by the fact that nearly 100,000 thousand acres of pristine forests are burning and nearly one-million acres of forest (public forests) have burned to the ground in and around the Pacific Northwest so far this year alone. The vast majority of these forests are publically owned and managed by Federal agencies under the overview of the EPA (http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2014/07/northwest_wildfires_more_than.html).
    As a result of the flames, heat and smoke, thousands of forest animals have died and many others are suffering with severe injuries and their habitat is now long-gone. Wildfires are indiscriminate killers of endangered species, as well as numerous other species of birds and many other forest animals. It’s impossible to put an economic value on a forest full of life; but having said that; and simply from a renewable resource point of view, just the trees that have been lost had an economic (timber) value in excess of a billion dollars!
    The EPA, BLM, U.S. Forestry and their environmentalist (‘Green’) support base claim that they want to preserve habitat and save endangered species, but by way of their own actions, policies and regulations, more habitat and species have been lost over the past decades under their management policies than were lost ever before, and are being lost, every year, year after year at an alarming rate!
    Albert Einstein once said that the definition of insanity is; doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results…
    So the question is why are we losing so much forest? And the answer is very simple… the forests are being mismanaged through the continued bungling-intervention of the EPA, the ‘environmentalists’ and the ‘green’ movement into the arena of forestry.
    I know something about the subject of forests and forest management since I grew-up living, working, hunting and fishing in the area of the forests that are being consumed by these incredibly massive fires, which have become a recurring annual theme over the past two and a half decades since the intervention of the ‘environmentalist’ into the area for forest management practices. But who are these ‘environmentalists’ anyway.
    Generally speaking (and there are exceptions), the ‘environmentalists’ who have taken an interest in controlling how our public forests are used don’t live in the forests, and they view the human race (you, me our families and friends) as less valuable and relevant than a frog, fish, or a tree. They are people who seem to lack an understanding of the principals of renewable manageable resources, and who have become activists against those who would use the public forests responsibly, having had relatively little (if any) time and relevant experience living in or working in our forests themselves. Many of them are aligned with the concepts and principals of the ‘progressive’ socialist movement. If you debate them, many of these same people will quickly remind you of their ‘degrees’, etc… In other words, they are telling you that they ‘know it all’, and certainly more than you. However, anyone who has successfully managed a forest knows (as is seen in privately owned and managed forests) that reading some books in college and going on a few field trips just doesn’t cut it; a piece of paper hanging on the wall is no substitute for actual experience that is gained over many generations of successful forest management. No more so than someone trying to be a farmer with the same token experience… it just doesn’t work.
    And coincidentally, many of the books that some universities are using in their forestry programs are authored by some of the same ‘green’ environmentalist forest managers who have had a hand in developing the current failed forest management polices as applied over the past two decades; just look what’s happening! Books and lectures simply cannot teach common sense or instill the on-the-ground experience that loggers and foresters develop over the span of their lives, and through generation after generation of families working in the woods. There’s just no debating when it comes to the contrast between the current recurring disaster management model, and the past successes in forest management with sustainable and renewable timber harvests, combined with abundant wildlife habitat; without the mammoth annual fires we are experiencing today.
    Here (the link just below) is an important (precedent example) of how proper forest management, which includes selective logging and other proper management practices, saved a forest and stopped a major wildfire: http://cronkitenewsonline.com/2011/12/experts-decades-of-logging-treatments-helped-stop-wallow-fire-at-reservation/
    In the early 1970’s I worked in the woods logging and then later worked as a millwright for Southern Oregon Plywood. My brothers were also loggers as were many of my friends and countless others who lived in Southern Oregon. Like farmers who tended to their fields and cared for them year after year, and who depended upon those fields and the resulting crop production, loggers cared for the forests; they had to; forests were the lifeline for their family’s financial security.
    Loggers and their families also spent a lot of time in the woods even when they weren’t working; they hunted and fished in the forests for generations. And through that continual close contact with the forest and the wildlife, loggers gained more knowledge about the forests and the animals that lived there than many of the scientists, giving them a unique understanding of the intricate and complex interactions of the biodiversity that exists in the forests.
    As just one example of the many successful practices of loggers; dead and dying trees and underbrush (fuel for fires) were removed and eliminated during selective harvesting of the forests, and in the process of harvests, small access roads were made, which served as fire breaks and access for firefighters in the event of a fire. During that time and preceding decades, back when loggers were allowed to log public forests, fires that burned hundreds of thousands and millions of acres of timber were very rare, almost non-existent. And that was because the forests were healthy and the density of the forest and the underbrush were kept to a minimum as a result of proper management and continued annual harvests. Forests were managed as a sustainable and renewable resource, which in turn benefited the wildlife with sustainable reliable habitat and in the process, also provided recreational opportunities for the people. That former relationship between loggers and the forest was truly symbiotic.
    I can still recall the spotted owl debacle, where loggers, who for all intents and purposes were the caretakers of the forests were completely closed-out of the public forests in wholesale fashion as a result of the ‘green’ movement and environmentalists! All logging came to a complete halt as well as the associated management practices. This resulted in the shutdown of numerous West Coast lumber mills and the loss of tens of thousands of jobs in and related to the timber industry which was thereafter decimated.
    During the lobby by the ‘green movement’ and environmentalists, they argued that the rate of logging prior to the 1990’s would eliminate the old growth forests… here is a quote:
    “Environmentalists admit that saving the owls’ habitat could cost jobs. But, they argue, these jobs will vanish no matter what. For if cutting continues at its current rate of 125,000 acres a year, the old-growth forests will be gone within thirty years and the mills forced to close anyhow.” (taken from this article: http://www.scu.edu/ethics/publications/iie/v4n1/ ).
    However, as we have all witnessed, since the transition to the ‘green movement’s’ ban on logging in public forests, we are in fact actually losing many hundreds of thousands of acres of forest annually! It’s a travesty of monumental proportions… when people like these try to play God, the results are usually tragic and harm both humanity and the wildlife.
    Through the use of politics combined with bad science the ‘green movement’ and environmentalists led the way to the implementation of seriously flawed policies (regulations) and practices. The EPA and the BLM along with Federal forestry agencies and their environmentalist support base had in the early 1990’s effected a major management policy change in order to supposedly save forest habitat for a species of owl (spotted owl) that was ‘allegedly’ endangered (http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19930114&slug=1679945)
    Result: In the early 1990’s Federal forests became off-limits to loggers.
    Of course under the ‘new management’ practices of the environmentalist-led EPA, BLM and Federal Forestry Departments, the forests became (and are) very seriously overgrown leading to unhealthy stands of trees (with dead and dying trees) that were vulnerable to disease, insects and of course fire, as did the underbrush.
    Forests became so dense that if a fire started (regardless of reason)… the fire would burn extremely hot and spread very fast; it’s so simple a child can understand the concept… more fuel, more forest fire.
    And at the end of the day, many years later after Feds and the ‘green’ environmentalists kicked the loggers out of the forests and took-over, placing ‘their’ policies, regulations and management practices into place, the spotted owl population has continued to drop! This is irrefutable evidence that their interventions, policies and regulations have utterly failed to affect the owls, and in that failure, the public interest has lost even more animals and habitat to fire! Through their own actions, we now have even more animals heading towards potential extinction! What a contradiction to the claims of these people!
    Under the ‘green environmental’ forest management polices/practices (‘hands off, no logging’), forests have become so dense that when lightning starts a fire, instead of just burning-off a relatively small area before the fire is brought under control, as it was in the days of managed logging, fires today now burn entire tracks of forests amounting to hundreds of thousands of acres annually, all of which is burned to the bare ground!
    LET’S KEEP IN THE MIND THAT THIS IS NOW THE NEW ‘NORM’, and since it takes many decades for the trees to be re-established, the net result is that we are losing more and more forest annually, instead of gaining more forest area and wildlife habitat; just the opposite of what the environmentalists and the EPA preach to the public. So what’s the point?
    You don’t need to be a rocket scientist to figure this one out…. Just look at the annual total acres that are burned to the ground… It’s truly shocking that this is even allowed to continue as it has, year after year.
    So much for the ‘habitat’ of the spotted owl! And of course the habitats for dozens of other species were (are) lost as well. As of this writing, I am down in the area of the fires interviewing local people, and hundreds of thousands of acres of ‘critical habitat’ (old growth and other trees) has been converted to the ash that is falling from the sky; it’s like a nuclear winter without the radiation. Ash from the burned forests is covering entire cities!
    It’s a fact that under the continued management of the public’s forest lands by the same idiotic policies, we now have annual forest fires that devastate huge areas of forest, and in the process destroy all of the trees, as opposed to having some of the trees harvested resulting in a healthy forest as had existed in the past; forests which then were also more fire-resistant. Some may try to argue that the fires are a result of the drought. Of course that’s a ruse to deflect blame from the implementation of a seriously flawed management policy. In the prior era of managed forest harvests, we also had periods of severe drought, without the results we are seeing today. Added to which, forests which are selectively logged and managed are far more fire resistant, drought or not, and that fact is undeniable.
    So which method makes more sense? Sustainable logging as it was successfully practiced for nearly a century; or…. The current ‘green environmentalist’ methods where no logging is allowed in public forests resulting in hundreds of thousands of acres of forests regularly burning to the ground leaving nothing but ash and bare ground that is devoid of plant life and subject to severe erosion?
    The erosion of the scorched earth in-turn leads to excessive silt run-off into the streams and rivers, which covers the critical gravel beds in the streams and rivers that are required for the fish eggs of spawning fish such as Salmon. Of course the recent decline in Salmon and Steelhead runs are certainly associated to this situation. Additionally, the loss of forests results in the loss of critical shade trees in and around watersheds, which results in the warming of stream and river water temperatures; this also adversely affects the fish populations.
    The late Summer and Fall storms of the Pacific Northwest which spawn the lightning that ignite the forests also provide the downpours that wash the silt into the streams and rivers that resulted from the aftermath of the massive forest fires. And this silting of the waterways comes at the worst possible time… just as the Salmon are moving upriver to spawn in the gravel beds of the rivers and streams. However, with the overburden of silt that has washed-down off the now barren mountain sides, the gravel beds are covered in silt and are no longer viable for the spawning Salmon. This is not an optimal situation for the spawning Salmon; in fact, it can cause entire runs of Salmon to fail in their efforts to reproduce! As a fisherman myself, this situation is beyond frustrating.
    As anyone can easily see, the relative newcomer green environmentalist-scientists have it all wrong, and every year since the implementation of their fatally flawed concepts and polices we watch as more and more forests are consumed by massive fires such as those that are burning as I write this.
    If these forests were properly managed and logged as they were just 30 years ago in the Pacific Northwest, we would have trees still standing and abundant animal habitat in areas that are now burned to the dirt, and we would have renewable forest harvests as in the past providing full-time jobs for thousands of people. And as it was in the past, healthy standing forests shading the watersheds and minimized erosion, providing optimal water temperatures and low water turbidity in the streams and rivers resulting in abundant runs of fish, something that local Indian tribes greatly desire.
    Instead, thanks to the intervention of the EPA, the ‘green movement’ and environmentalists, we have less and less forest, which leads to less and less water, and less fish,
    WHILE THE GOOD PEOPLE OF SISKIYOU, JACKSON, JOSEPHINE AND KLAMATH COUNTIES ARE SUFFERING FROM RECORD HIGH UN-EMPLOYMENT AS THEY WATCH HELPLESSLY AS BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF TIMBER IS TURNED TO ASH EACH YEAR.
    And in the end, with the forests burned to the ground, if a few spotted owls survive the blaze, the spotted owl has no trees and no habitat. So what was the point?
    It just doesn’t get any dumber than this. We have the blind leading the blind.
    THINKING AMERICANS NEED TO STAND-UP TO THE CURRENT STUPIDITY AND FORM A UNITED FRONT AGAINST THE IDIOTS WHO THINK THEY KNOW WHAT’S BEST FOR EVERYONE ELSE, OUR NATURAL RESOURCES, OUR SCHOOLS AND OUR LOCAL COUNTIES.
    Some readers might be thinking; why should I care? Or, how does this affect me since I live across the U.S. from these wildfires. We all need to care and take action because this kind of mismanagement can happen anywhere environmentalists stick their noses into areas where they have less than adequate experience.
    AS I WRITE THIS, AND AS A RESULT OF YET ANOTHER ENVIRONMENTALIST INTERVENTION, NUMEROUS PERFECTLY GOOD WEST COAST DAMS ARE BEING EYED FOR REMOVAL! OF COURSE THIS MAKES PERFECT SENSE TO THESE UPSIDE-DOWN THINKING PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THAT THE WEST COAST IS SERIOUSLY SHORT ON WATER AS IT IS, AND NEEDS MORE DAMS, NOT LESS!
    Are we going to wait until these clowns let it all burn?
    Cheers! Bill
    Capt. William E. Simpson – USMM
    http://www.WilliameSimpson.com
    Twitter: https://twitter.com/NauticalPrepper
    This entry was posted in A History of WA State Wildfires, A Question of “WHAT ELSE?”, Accountable Government, FACTS are troublesome things, Kicking the Can Down the Road, Nature made Crisis Man Made Disaster, Wildfires Truth and Politics.

    CATASTROPHIC WILDFIRES FIRES – TRUTH AND POLITICS
    American Citizens need to stand-up to the current stupidity and form a united front against the idiots who think they know what’s best for everyone else, our natural resources, our schools and our local counties.
    Albert Einstein once said that the definition of insanity is; doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results…
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    HISTORY TRUTH AND POLITICS
    FEBRUARY 26, 2013, THE HOUSE SUBCOMMITTEE ON PUBLIC LANDS AND ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATION HELD A HEARING PRESIDED OVER BY NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN DOC HASTINGS (R-WASH.) that turns out to have been very relevant to the current burning issue of our national forest management. The subcommittee heard from a number of witnesses who testified concerning the superiority of state-managed forest lands versus the federally managed forests.
    TRUTH ON FEBRUARY 26, 2013 REP. HASTINGS noted that the much smaller forests managed by Washington State “generate an average of $168 million annually, support construction of public elementary, middle school and high schools statewide, facilities at the state’s universities, and other state facilities and institutions.
    TRUTH ON FEBRUARY 26, 2013 In comparison, THE U.S. FOREST SERVICE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MANAGING OVER 9 MILLION ACRES OF FOREST LAND contained within seven different national forests in the State of Washington, yet harvests just 2 percent of the new growth, yielding a four-year average of only $589,000 in revenue.”
    TRUTH ON FEBRUARY 26, 2013 CHAIRMAN HASTINGS noted further:
    Rather than offering all-too-familiar rhetoric of how complying with one federal law or another “costs too much,” IT’S TIME FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO ADJUST HOW IT DOES BUSINESS, and honor its own STATUTORY RESPONSIBILITIES TO MANAGE THE FORESTS, INCLUDING ALLOWING SUFFICIENT TIMBER HARVESTS, THAT BENEFIT FORESTED COUNTIES AND THEIR SCHOOLS, AS WELL AS IMPROVE DECLINING FOREST HEALTH
    AND, REDUCE THE THREAT AND SOARING COSTS OF CATASTROPHIC WILDFIRE.
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    AUG 24, 2013 HISTORY TRUTH AND POLITICS- CATASTROPHIC WILDFIRES FIRES
    BURNING UP THE WEST: FEDS, GREENS CAUSE CATASTROPHIC FIRES …
    Burning Up the West: Feds, Greens Cause Catastrophic Fires
    www.thenewamerican.com/…/environment/…/16396-burning-up-the-we…
    AUG 24, 2013 – Burning Up the West: Feds, Greens Cause Catastrophic Fires … radical environmentalists that have thwarted all reasonable attempts at proper forest …. HASTINGS pointed out that the federal Northwest Forest Plan for California, …
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    Sep 8, 2014 HISTORY TRUTH AND POLITICS CATASTROPHIC WILDFIRES FIRES
    NORTHWEST WILDFIRES AND THE ‘GREEN’ ENVIRONMENTALIST
    NORTHWEST WILDFIRES AND THE ‘GREEN …
    www.survivalbased.com › Blog › Homesteading
    Sep 8, 2014 – The EPA, BLM, U.S. Forestry and their environmentalist (‘Green’) support base claim that they want to preserve habitat and save endangered .
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    DEADLY CATASTROPHIC WILDFIRES FIRES HAVE KILLED 9 PEOPLE
    TRUTH AND POLITICS SEPT 28 2015
    UPDATED: MONDAY, 28,SEPTEMBER 2015 WASHINGTON – OREGON – CALIFORNIA
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    Northwest Large Fire Information Summary – NWCC :: Home
    gacc.nifc.gov/nwcc/…/fire_info.aspx
    National Interagency Fire Center
    (102 KB); 2014 MEDIA WILDFIRE COVERAGE GUIDELINES FOR OREGON AND WASHINGTON • Adobe Acrobat … UPDATED: MONDAY, 28TH SEPTEMBER 2015 at 07:19:57 AM …
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    TRUTH AND POLITICS CATASTROPHIC WILDFIRES FIRES
    California wildfires burn hundreds of homes – CNN.com
    www.cnn.com/2015/09/14/us/california-wildfires/
    Sep 14, 2015 – Northern California’s Valley Fire — one of several in the state — has killed 1 and … California wildfires rage, threatening lives and homes. By Greg Botelho and Dan Simon, CNN. Updated 1:51 AM ET, Tue September 15, 2015 ….. Already, hundreds of homes have been destroyed, and some 9,000 more are …
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    2015 TRUTH AND POLITICS – CATASTROPHIC WILDFIRES FIRES
    Northwest wildfires break records for cost, size this summer
    www.kgw.com/story/news/local/2015/06/…wildfire…/71264920/
    Sep 21, 2015 – Here’s a look at the latest Pacific Northwest wildfire information, updated daily. … Chelan Fires; First Creek Fire, Okanogan-Wenatchee NF, WA, 2015 Kari Greer/USFS …. wildfires. It started in mid-August and had burned 110,422 acres by … This wildfire destroyed at least 26 homes and prompted extended …
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    The comment below on catastrophic wildfires fires was posted on September 8, 2014
    I AM POSTING THIS DEADLY CATASTROPHIC WILDFIRES FIRES – TRUTH AND POLITICS COMMENT , AGAIN ON SEPT 28, 2015,
    BECAUSE…. NINE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KILLED IN OUT OF CONTROL WILDFIRES IN 2015
    Three firefighters killed in Washington’s Twisp Fire – CNN.com
    www.cnn.com/2015/08/20/us/wildfires-western-states/
    Aug 20, 2015 – Three firefighters have died in a wildfire in north-central Washington, the state’s governor said on his website. Four firefighters were injured, …
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    Wildfires In Northern California Kill 6 People, Destroy Nearly …
    www.huffingtonpost.com/…/california-wildfire_55ff…
    Ten active wildfires in Northern California continue to threaten a thousand more homes. AP. Posted: 09/21/2015 06:42 AM EDT … Those fires killed five people, and on Sunday authorities announced that a body was found in the ashes of a …
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    Bottom line snippets
    NORTHWEST WILDFIRES AND THE ‘GREEN’ ENVIRONMENTALIST
    THINKING AMERICANS NEED TO STAND-UP TO THE CURRENT STUPIDITY AND FORM A UNITED FRONT AGAINST THE IDIOTS WHO THINK THEY KNOW WHAT’S BEST FOR EVERYONE ELSE, OUR NATURAL RESOURCES, OUR SCHOOLS AND OUR LOCAL COUNTIES.
    WHILE THE GOOD PEOPLE OF SISKIYOU, JACKSON, JOSEPHINE AND KLAMATH COUNTIES ARE SUFFERING FROM RECORD HIGH UN-EMPLOYMENT AS THEY WATCH HELPLESSLY AS BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF TIMBER IS TURNED TO ASH EACH YEAR.
    AS I WRITE THIS, AND AS A RESULT OF YET ANOTHER ENVIRONMENTALIST INTERVENTION, NUMEROUS PERFECTLY GOOD WEST COAST DAMS ARE BEING EYED FOR REMOVAL! OF COURSE THIS MAKES PERFECT SENSE TO THESE UPSIDE-DOWN THINKING PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THAT THE WEST COAST IS SERIOUSLY SHORT ON WATER AS IT IS, AND NEEDS MORE DAMS, NOT LESS!
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    NORTHWEST WILDFIRES AND THE ‘GREEN’ ENVIRONMENTALIST (full text)
    Posted on September 8, 2014 by Capt. William E. Simpson
    As I write this I am vexed by the fact that nearly 100,000 thousand acres of pristine forests are burning and nearly one-million acres of forest (public forests) have burned to the ground in and around the Pacific Northwest so far this year alone. The vast majority of these forests are publically owned and managed by Federal agencies under the overview of the EPA (http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2014/07/northwest_wildfires_more_than.html).
    As a result of the flames, heat and smoke, thousands of forest animals have died and many others are suffering with severe injuries and their habitat is now long-gone. Wildfires are indiscriminate killers of endangered species, as well as numerous other species of birds and many other forest animals. It’s impossible to put an economic value on a forest full of life; but having said that; and simply from a renewable resource point of view, just the trees that have been lost had an economic (timber) value in excess of a billion dollars!
    The EPA, BLM, U.S. Forestry and their environmentalist (‘Green’) support base claim that they want to preserve habitat and save endangered species, but by way of their own actions, policies and regulations, more habitat and species have been lost over the past decades under their management policies than were lost ever before, and are being lost, every year, year after year at an alarming rate!
    Albert Einstein once said that the definition of insanity is; doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results…
    So the question is why are we losing so much forest? And the answer is very simple… the forests are being mismanaged through the continued bungling-intervention of the EPA, the ‘environmentalists’ and the ‘green’ movement into the arena of forestry.
    I know something about the subject of forests and forest management since I grew-up living, working, hunting and fishing in the area of the forests that are being consumed by these incredibly massive fires, which have become a recurring annual theme over the past two and a half decades since the intervention of the ‘environmentalist’ into the area for forest management practices. But who are these ‘environmentalists’ anyway.
    Generally speaking (and there are exceptions), the ‘environmentalists’ who have taken an interest in controlling how our public forests are used don’t live in the forests, and they view the human race (you, me our families and friends) as less valuable and relevant than a frog, fish, or a tree. They are people who seem to lack an understanding of the principals of renewable manageable resources, and who have become activists against those who would use the public forests responsibly, having had relatively little (if any) time and relevant experience living in or working in our forests themselves. Many of them are aligned with the concepts and principals of the ‘progressive’ socialist movement. If you debate them, many of these same people will quickly remind you of their ‘degrees’, etc… In other words, they are telling you that they ‘know it all’, and certainly more than you. However, anyone who has successfully managed a forest knows (as is seen in privately owned and managed forests) that reading some books in college and going on a few field trips just doesn’t cut it; a piece of paper hanging on the wall is no substitute for actual experience that is gained over many generations of successful forest management. No more so than someone trying to be a farmer with the same token experience… it just doesn’t work.
    And coincidentally, many of the books that some universities are using in their forestry programs are authored by some of the same ‘green’ environmentalist forest managers who have had a hand in developing the current failed forest management polices as applied over the past two decades; just look what’s happening! Books and lectures simply cannot teach common sense or instill the on-the-ground experience that loggers and foresters develop over the span of their lives, and through generation after generation of families working in the woods. There’s just no debating when it comes to the contrast between the current recurring disaster management model, and the past successes in forest management with sustainable and renewable timber harvests, combined with abundant wildlife habitat; without the mammoth annual fires we are experiencing today.
    Here (the link just below) is an important (precedent example) of how proper forest management, which includes selective logging and other proper management practices, saved a forest and stopped a major wildfire: http://cronkitenewsonline.com/2011/12/experts-decades-of-logging-treatments-helped-stop-wallow-fire-at-reservation/
    In the early 1970’s I worked in the woods logging and then later worked as a millwright for Southern Oregon Plywood. My brothers were also loggers as were many of my friends and countless others who lived in Southern Oregon. Like farmers who tended to their fields and cared for them year after year, and who depended upon those fields and the resulting crop production, loggers cared for the forests; they had to; forests were the lifeline for their family’s financial security.
    Loggers and their families also spent a lot of time in the woods even when they weren’t working; they hunted and fished in the forests for generations. And through that continual close contact with the forest and the wildlife, loggers gained more knowledge about the forests and the animals that lived there than many of the scientists, giving them a unique understanding of the intricate and complex interactions of the biodiversity that exists in the forests.
    As just one example of the many successful practices of loggers; dead and dying trees and underbrush (fuel for fires) were removed and eliminated during selective harvesting of the forests, and in the process of harvests, small access roads were made, which served as fire breaks and access for firefighters in the event of a fire. During that time and preceding decades, back when loggers were allowed to log public forests, fires that burned hundreds of thousands and millions of acres of timber were very rare, almost non-existent. And that was because the forests were healthy and the density of the forest and the underbrush were kept to a minimum as a result of proper management and continued annual harvests. Forests were managed as a sustainable and renewable resource, which in turn benefited the wildlife with sustainable reliable habitat and in the process, also provided recreational opportunities for the people. That former relationship between loggers and the forest was truly symbiotic.
    I can still recall the spotted owl debacle, where loggers, who for all intents and purposes were the caretakers of the forests were completely closed-out of the public forests in wholesale fashion as a result of the ‘green’ movement and environmentalists! All logging came to a complete halt as well as the associated management practices. This resulted in the shutdown of numerous West Coast lumber mills and the loss of tens of thousands of jobs in and related to the timber industry which was thereafter decimated.
    During the lobby by the ‘green movement’ and environmentalists, they argued that the rate of logging prior to the 1990’s would eliminate the old growth forests… here is a quote:
    “Environmentalists admit that saving the owls’ habitat could cost jobs. But, they argue, these jobs will vanish no matter what. For if cutting continues at its current rate of 125,000 acres a year, the old-growth forests will be gone within thirty years and the mills forced to close anyhow.” (taken from this article: http://www.scu.edu/ethics/publications/iie/v4n1/ ).
    However, as we have all witnessed, since the transition to the ‘green movement’s’ ban on logging in public forests, we are in fact actually losing many hundreds of thousands of acres of forest annually! It’s a travesty of monumental proportions… when people like these try to play God, the results are usually tragic and harm both humanity and the wildlife.
    Through the use of politics combined with bad science the ‘green movement’ and environmentalists led the way to the implementation of seriously flawed policies (regulations) and practices. The EPA and the BLM along with Federal forestry agencies and their environmentalist support base had in the early 1990’s effected a major management policy change in order to supposedly save forest habitat for a species of owl (spotted owl) that was ‘allegedly’ endangered (http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19930114&slug=1679945)
    Result: In the early 1990’s Federal forests became off-limits to loggers.
    Of course under the ‘new management’ practices of the environmentalist-led EPA, BLM and Federal Forestry Departments, the forests became (and are) very seriously overgrown leading to unhealthy stands of trees (with dead and dying trees) that were vulnerable to disease, insects and of course fire, as did the underbrush.
    Forests became so dense that if a fire started (regardless of reason)… the fire would burn extremely hot and spread very fast; it’s so simple a child can understand the concept… more fuel, more forest fire.
    And at the end of the day, many years later after Feds and the ‘green’ environmentalists kicked the loggers out of the forests and took-over, placing ‘their’ policies, regulations and management practices into place, the spotted owl population has continued to drop! This is irrefutable evidence that their interventions, policies and regulations have utterly failed to affect the owls, and in that failure, the public interest has lost even more animals and habitat to fire! Through their own actions, we now have even more animals heading towards potential extinction! What a contradiction to the claims of these people!
    Under the ‘green environmental’ forest management polices/practices (‘hands off, no logging’), forests have become so dense that when lightning starts a fire, instead of just burning-off a relatively small area before the fire is brought under control, as it was in the days of managed logging, fires today now burn entire tracks of forests amounting to hundreds of thousands of acres annually, all of which is burned to the bare ground!
    LET’S KEEP IN THE MIND THAT THIS IS NOW THE NEW ‘NORM’, and since it takes many decades for the trees to be re-established, the net result is that we are losing more and more forest annually, instead of gaining more forest area and wildlife habitat; just the opposite of what the environmentalists and the EPA preach to the public. So what’s the point?
    You don’t need to be a rocket scientist to figure this one out…. Just look at the annual total acres that are burned to the ground… It’s truly shocking that this is even allowed to continue as it has, year after year.
    So much for the ‘habitat’ of the spotted owl! And of course the habitats for dozens of other species were (are) lost as well. As of this writing, I am down in the area of the fires interviewing local people, and hundreds of thousands of acres of ‘critical habitat’ (old growth and other trees) has been converted to the ash that is falling from the sky; it’s like a nuclear winter without the radiation. Ash from the burned forests is covering entire cities!
    It’s a fact that under the continued management of the public’s forest lands by the same idiotic policies, we now have annual forest fires that devastate huge areas of forest, and in the process destroy all of the trees, as opposed to having some of the trees harvested resulting in a healthy forest as had existed in the past; forests which then were also more fire-resistant. Some may try to argue that the fires are a result of the drought. Of course that’s a ruse to deflect blame from the implementation of a seriously flawed management policy. In the prior era of managed forest harvests, we also had periods of severe drought, without the results we are seeing today. Added to which, forests which are selectively logged and managed are far more fire resistant, drought or not, and that fact is undeniable.
    So which method makes more sense? Sustainable logging as it was successfully practiced for nearly a century; or…. The current ‘green environmentalist’ methods where no logging is allowed in public forests resulting in hundreds of thousands of acres of forests regularly burning to the ground leaving nothing but ash and bare ground that is devoid of plant life and subject to severe erosion?
    The erosion of the scorched earth in-turn leads to excessive silt run-off into the streams and rivers, which covers the critical gravel beds in the streams and rivers that are required for the fish eggs of spawning fish such as Salmon. Of course the recent decline in Salmon and Steelhead runs are certainly associated to this situation. Additionally, the loss of forests results in the loss of critical shade trees in and around watersheds, which results in the warming of stream and river water temperatures; this also adversely affects the fish populations.
    The late Summer and Fall storms of the Pacific Northwest which spawn the lightning that ignite the forests also provide the downpours that wash the silt into the streams and rivers that resulted from the aftermath of the massive forest fires. And this silting of the waterways comes at the worst possible time… just as the Salmon are moving upriver to spawn in the gravel beds of the rivers and streams. However, with the overburden of silt that has washed-down off the now barren mountain sides, the gravel beds are covered in silt and are no longer viable for the spawning Salmon. This is not an optimal situation for the spawning Salmon; in fact, it can cause entire runs of Salmon to fail in their efforts to reproduce! As a fisherman myself, this situation is beyond frustrating.
    As anyone can easily see, the relative newcomer green environmentalist-scientists have it all wrong, and every year since the implementation of their fatally flawed concepts and polices we watch as more and more forests are consumed by massive fires such as those that are burning as I write this.
    If these forests were properly managed and logged as they were just 30 years ago in the Pacific Northwest, we would have trees still standing and abundant animal habitat in areas that are now burned to the dirt, and we would have renewable forest harvests as in the past providing full-time jobs for thousands of people. And as it was in the past, healthy standing forests shading the watersheds and minimized erosion, providing optimal water temperatures and low water turbidity in the streams and rivers resulting in abundant runs of fish, something that local Indian tribes greatly desire.
    Instead, thanks to the intervention of the EPA, the ‘green movement’ and environmentalists, we have less and less forest, which leads to less and less water, and less fish, WHILE THE GOOD PEOPLE OF SISKIYOU, JACKSON, JOSEPHINE AND KLAMATH COUNTIES ARE SUFFERING FROM RECORD HIGH UN-EMPLOYMENT AS THEY WATCH HELPLESSLY AS BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF TIMBER IS TURNED TO ASH EACH YEAR.
    And in the end, with the forests burned to the ground, if a few spotted owls survive the blaze, the spotted owl has no trees and no habitat. So what was the point?
    It just doesn’t get any dumber than this. We have the blind leading the blind.
    THINKING AMERICANS NEED TO STAND-UP TO THE CURRENT STUPIDITY AND FORM A UNITED FRONT AGAINST THE IDIOTS WHO THINK THEY KNOW WHAT’S BEST FOR EVERYONE ELSE, OUR NATURAL RESOURCES, OUR SCHOOLS AND OUR LOCAL COUNTIES.
    Some readers might be thinking; why should I care? Or, how does this affect me since I live across the U.S. from these wildfires. We all need to care and take action because this kind of mismanagement can happen anywhere environmentalists stick their noses into areas where they have less than adequate experience. AS I WRITE THIS, AND AS A RESULT OF YET ANOTHER ENVIRONMENTALIST INTERVENTION, NUMEROUS PERFECTLY GOOD WEST COAST DAMS ARE BEING EYED FOR REMOVAL! OF COURSE THIS MAKES PERFECT SENSE TO THESE UPSIDE-DOWN THINKING PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THAT THE WEST COAST IS SERIOUSLY SHORT ON WATER AS IT IS, AND NEEDS MORE DAMS, NOT LESS!
    Are we going to wait until these clowns let it all burn?
    Cheers! Bill
    Capt. William E. Simpson – USMM
    http://www.WilliameSimpson.com
    Twitter: https://twitter.com/NauticalPrepper


  • California’s Fire Protection Fee Laws?

    California’s Fire Protection Fee Laws?
    Are Cal Fire Protection Fee Laws like WA State Fire Protection Fees Laws?

    This posting and comment from Liz Bowen “Pie N Politics”
    Megafires Don’t Melt Opposition To California Fire Fee
    By Chris Nichols, Capital Public Radio, 9/17/15 prompted me to research, document and post a comment on WA State Fire Fees Protection laws.

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    Behind My Back | What do WA State Fire Fees Pay For?

    www.behindmyback.org/2015/09/22/what-dowastatefirefeespay-for/

    1 day ago – I checked my Clallam County, WA State tax statement. … A LEGISLATED ACT OF FEE FI FOE FUM, AN ACT OF “OR ELSE” AND AN ACT OF PAY THE FEES “OR ELSE” … www.behindmyback.org/2013/10/26/fee-fie-foe–fum/.
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     Californians and Washingtonians have a  lot in common when it comes to THE HORRENDOUS DEADLY, OUT OF CONTROL,  WILDFIRES BURNING IN OUR STATES. WE THE PEOPLE ARE REELING FROM THE LOSS OF AMERICAN LIVES …. THE LOSS OF FAMILY HOMES AND BUSINESS’S …

    AND, AMERICAN FAMILIES BEING FORCED TO EVACUATE AND ENDING UP LIKE DISPLACED FOREIGN REFUGEES.

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    WILDFIRE FIGHTERS LAY THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE TO PROTECT WE THE PEOPLE.

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    AT THE VERY LEAST…

    WE THE PEOPLE MUST DEMAND ANSWERS FROM OUR FEDERAL AND STATE ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES, REGARDING NOT ONLY THE FIRE FEES WE PAY FOR FIRE PROTECTION.

    BUT, WHY THE GOVERNMENT KEEPS FIDDLING WHILE THE WEST BURNS?

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    Added for emphasis and clarity…

    Fiddle while Rome burns definition. To do something trivial and irresponsible in the midst of an emergency; legend has it that while a fire destroyed the city of Rome, the emperor Nero played his violin, thus revealing his total lack of concern for his people and his empire.
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    This is the full text of the New post on Pie N Politics
    Megafires Don’t Melt Opposition To California Fire Fee

    Comment from Stephen Frank
    Cal Fire Continues to Steal $$ From Rural Property Owners
    September 18, 2015
    For years the people in rural California has been paying hundreds of dollars a year to Cal Fire, for fire protection. It is as if their regular taxes had nothing to do with the fire fighters hired by the State to protect them. These folks sued and it will take years before a court will hear the case and a dozen more years before all the appeals are done. Then Sacramento bureaucrats will have close to twenty years of using your money—think they will ever give it back? Maybe by increasing taxes on everybody to pay for their theft.
    “Like many rural Californians, the Millers grudgingly pay the state an annual fire prevention fee of one hundred seventeen dollars. It was passed four years ago to help the state close a budget deficit. And even as the Butte and other mega-fires threaten their homes, rural residents say the mistrust over the fee lives on. Les Miller calls it a state cash grab.
    Les Miller: “They want more money, so they find a way to get it. Everybody is concerned about fire. So, they call it a fire fee.”

    Megafires Don’t Melt Opposition To California Fire Fee
    By Chris Nichols, Capital Public Radio, 9/17/15
    Rural Californians are reeling from yet another destructive fire season.
    But that doesn’t mean they now support a controversial fire fee imposed several years ago by legislative Democrats and Governor Jerry Brown. Chris Nichols reports from Sacramento.
    Bags stuffed with Betsy Miller’s family photos and quilting fabric sit ready to go in her Sierra foothills home. Miller and her husband, Les, are retirees who live in Amador County. The Butte Fire forced them to evacuate last week. Now, they’re back home. But they’re not unpacking.
    Betsy Miller: “Fires have a way of coming back.”
    Betsy Miller says she loves quilting too much to have her fabric go up in flames.
    Betsy Miller: “I want to pick and choose what I’m going to finish, not have a fire pick and choose what I’m going to finish.”
    Like many rural Californians, the Millers grudgingly pay the state an annual fire prevention fee of one hundred seventeen dollars. It was passed four years ago to help the state close a budget deficit. And even as the Butte and other mega-fires threaten their homes, rural residents say the mistrust over the fee lives on. Les Miller calls it a state cash grab.
    Les Miller: “They want more money, so they find a way to get it. Everybody is concerned about fire. So, they call it a fire fee.”
    A dozen homeowners here interviewed this week say they remain opposed because the money doesn’t help fight fires. It only helps prevent them.
    The Brown Administration declined comment. But a recent state report says the fee raises about $75 million dollars a year for efforts like identifying evacuation routes and clearing brush.
    Signs thanking firefighters dot highways across the foothills. But that gratitude doesn’t extend to the state leaders who imposed the fee. Vincent Campa also fled his home during the Butte Fire.
    Campa: “I’ve also had people frustrated with the fee, not being able to afford it, living on fixed incomes.”
    A taxpayers group has sued the state, alleging the fee is an unconstitutional tax. But a final ruling could take years.
    http://www.capoliticalreview.com/capoliticalnewsandviews/cal-fire-continues-to-steal-from-rural-property-owners/
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    WILDFIRE FIGHTERS LIVES MATTER.


  • Are You an Environmentalist?

    Are You an Environmentalist?

    “Are You an Environmentalist OR DO YOU WORK FOR A LIVING?”: Work and Nature. In Uncommon Ground: Rethinking the Human Place in Nature. William
    Cronon, (editor) New York: W.W. Norton 1995.

    What a Concept in 2015
    “RETHINKING THE HUMAN PLACE IN NATURE”

    (twenty years later)
    It’s a Great place to start..
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    I received this response on the
    Olympic Peninsula OLYMPEX Water Project
    After emailing out….
    Olympic Peninsula OLYMPEX WHAT ELSE? Project
    (full text below)
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    AN INSIDER’S VIEW OF “WHAT ELSE” on the Olympic Peninsula

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    Thanks Brooke….

    Sharing is caring
    This is a great place to start….

    Landscape and Politics on the Olympic Peninsula – Journal …

    THE LAST BITE. A PENINSULA STUDY? FROM 97

    An interesting outsiders view of Peninsula insiders
    Olympic Pen and Quinault observation, published in 1997, by then undergraduate at UW, during the previous conflicts with environmentalist, logging, resources, spotted owl and social/political conflicts. JUST LIKE READING OUR DAILY NEWS TODAY, yet 97 still seems like yesterday. I wonder what this guy would have to say today, with the Land and Water Grabs, massive Conservation Movements, debris fed Wildland fires, Forest Service Sellout/Lockout of Public Lands, Federal/Tribal Partnership bed down, EW Wilderness Warfare, Jet Pollution
    AND NOW OLYMPEX
    making sure we are UN micro monitored to quench their thirst, from Americas blood. PLUS the surround and attack set up now marking us a military hotspot target, by possible enemy attacks. A bullseye! Boots on the ground will continue to push their way around.
    What would this guy say about our “new” thoroughfare out in the river? Building the “new Floodplain by Design”, creating a “new wetland” after destroying the natural flowing old one. The Congressional puppet show has to prove that “No Child Left Behinder’s” show some worth, by giving those inexperienced “new” graduates a chance to try out their “new learned skills” acquired from “new” computer modeling software and with “new” 21st century “what if” speculations. In some instances incomplete assumptions altogether, can result in unnecessary irreparable damage . Mother nature doesn’t always work in structural regularity or conduct itself by the books. Science? Science has taken on a peculiar detour in definition. “New” science is anything one wants it to be or mean in today’s world. Science doesn’t even need a purpose. A continual never ending study. A curiosity. To either kill the cat or nurture it into a predatory state.
    http://jpe.library.arizona.edu/volume_4/5DARK.PDF

    Brooke

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    A 26 page document

    Landscape and Politics on the Olympic Peninsula – Journal …

    jpe.library.arizona.edu/volume_4/5DARK.PDF
    by A Dark – ‎1997 – ‎Cited by 4 – ‎Related articles

    Vol.4 1997. 1. Landscape and Politics on the … JPE who offered their well-informed criticisms on an earlier draft of this article. 2. Along with areas of New …

    Landscape and Politics on the Olympic Peninsula:
    Social Agendas and Contested Practices in Scientific Forestry

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    READ MORE THE WILD OF  “WHAT ELSE” ON THE OLYMPIC PENINSULA
    A DOCUMENTED INSIDER’S VIEW of the outsiders.

    The Wild Olympics Scam

    www.wildolympicsscam.com/

    stop the wild olympics, agenda 21, land grabs; will devastate rural communities.
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    (full email text) of the OLYMPIC PENINSULA OLYMPEX WHAT ELSE? Project
    To Whom it May Concern

    Just asking? Just Saying….

    DO YOU TRUST THE GOVERNMENT?

    My neighbor asked, “WHAT ELSE are they going to use OLYMPEX for?”

    ARE YOU SMARTER THEN A 5TH GRADER?

    If you connect the dots… THE (GPM) COVERS “JUST” THE ENTIRE EARTH. THE (GV) IS GROUND VALIDATION?

    INDEED….
    THIS NASA SATELLITE TOGETHER WITH THE NASDA SPACE AGENCY OF JAPAN, will serve as a calibration reference for a constellation of SATELLITES operated by SEVERAL COUNTRIES. It is crucial to???? Completing the SATELLITE SURVEILLANCE coverage of the entire Earth?

    THIS UNIQUE VENUE? THE OLYMPIC PENINSULA? IS THE “IDEAL?” OR? “THE ONLY LOCATION” WITH THE “IDEAL SIZE” THOUSANDS OF ACRES OF UNDEVELOPED LAND FOR A FIELD CAMPAIGN INVOLVING AIRCRAFT, RADARS AND OTHER GROUND-BASED SENSORS, AND OTHER? a SATELLITE with a dual frequency (Ka and Ku band) radar and passive microwave sensors (10-183 GHz frequencies)

    DOES THIS SOUND FAMILIAR?

    THE OLYMPIC PENINSULA ELECTRONIC WARFARE GAME PLAN….

    Using similar? OR THE SAME technology? Covering the entire Pacific rim and CONTINUING THE DEVELOPMENT of Menwith Hill in the EU…. FOR completing GLOBAL SATELLITE SURVEILLANCE coverage of the entire Earth?

    THE OLYMPIC PENINSULA ELECTRONIC WARFARE GAME PLAN….

    THIS UNIQUE VENUE? THE OLYMPIC PENINSULA? IS THE ONLY LOCATION WITH THE IDEAL SIZE,THOUSANDS OF ACRES OF UNDEVELOPED LAND FOR A FIELD CAMPAIGN INVOLVING AIRCRAFT, RADARS AND OTHER GROUND-BASED SENSORS.AND other, a satellite with a dual frequency (Ka and Ku band) radar and passive microwave sensors (10-183 GHz frequencies)

    CONSIDERING WHAT SATELLITE TECHNOLOGY HAS BECOME AND THE MULTIPURPOSES THEY ARE USED FOR….

    For the understanding of a reasonable person

    I AM JUST ASKING? IS THE OLYMPIC PENINSULA OLYMPEX “A WHAT ELSE ” MULTIPURPOSE GLOBAL PROJECT?

    Under WHAT ELSE?
    Lois asked….
    Did anyone mention the cost and who is paying for it?
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    Bottom line

    “WHAT ELSE?” INDEED…
    HOW MANY MORE MULTIPURPOSE GLOBAL PROJECTS?
    ARE BEING LEGISLATED AND FUNDED BEHIND OUR BACKS BEHIND CLOSED DOORS?


  • Federal Fire Fighting Nonsensical Restrictions?

    Federal Fire Fighting Nonsensical Restrictions?

    Common sense would dictate that US forest fires should be put out, where ever they are, as quickly as possible by any and all available means.

    As Congress would have it, fighting wild fires on the federal government owned, roughly 635-640 million acres, 28% of the 2.27 billion acres of land in the United States, is controlled by the United States Forest Service.
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    snippet ( full text below)
    This is the second year that Montana has been barred from DEPLOYING STATE HELICOPTERS TO PUT OUT FIRES ON PUBLIC LANDS CONTROLLED BY THE UNITED STATES FOREST SERVICE. “This makes no sense, and puts the safety and property of Montanans at risk,” Governor Bullock said.

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    CBS contacted the U.S. Forest Service Region headquarters in Missoula and said, “they responded with a statement, but said they’re not taking questions on the issue at this time. Public Affairs Staffer Elizabeth Sloan declined to comment on the accuracy of Governor Bullock’s letter, but, as part of a prepared statement, said:
    “THE FOREST SERVICE AND THE STATE OF MONTANA HAVE DIFFERENT STANDARDS AND REGULATIONS TO WHICH EACH MUST ADHERE.”
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    DIFFERENT STANDARDS AND REGULATIONS? (forget common sense)
    As Congress would have it, The Wilderness Act of 1964, banned the use of motorized vehicles, bulldozers, chainsaws, etc. for firefighting on, wild, wilderness, wild and scenic rivers, and CULTURAL resource land, etc.

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    Unfortunately, As Congress would have it, the United States Forest Service is limited by and barred from putting out fires, or allowing states to put out fires on federally controlled lands because of the incessant federal bureaucracy DIFFERENT STANDARDS AND REGULATIONS that cripples America.

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    There is a HUGE difference between WILDLAND forest fire fighting, where WILDLAND is by definition, land that has not been cultivated, especially land set aside and PROTECTED AS A WILDERNESS.

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    The DOI, National Parks, POLICY on WILDLANDS and wildfires “Let it Burn?”
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    I think we need to read and take heed. Please feel free to send this far and wide. If this is happening in Montana, it would be totally stupid to think  it isn’t happening in Washington, Idaho and California.
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    From: Jennifer Fielder [mailto:sen.jfielder@legmt.gov]
    Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 11:43 AM
    To: undisclosed-recipients:
    Subject: Update From Sen Fielder – Feds won’t let state put wildfires out
    MONTANA
    Feds won’t let state put wildfires out
    Here is my article, the way I submitted it:
    By Sen Jennifer Fielder, R – Thompson Falls Aug 24, 2015 (note to readers below)
    What’s wrong with this picture? The federal government admits they don’t have the resources to fight the fires. But when Montana mobilized our state firefighting aircraft, the feds told Montana firefighters to stand down.

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    It’s been happening all over the west. People are being evacuated, homes burning, thousands of wild animals and livestock destroyed. Billions of dollars in valuable timber and other property is going up in smoke. Lakes, streams, and fisheries decimated. And state owned firefighting aircraft are barred from putting out fires on federally controlled lands because of the incessant federal bureaucracy that is crippling America.

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    Last Friday Governor Steve Bullock wrote a letter to the Obama administration asking them to lift the “nonsensical restrictions”. The Governor declared a state of emergency and authorized Montana National Guard troops and the state’s wildland firefighting aircraft to assist in putting out the wildfires burning on federally controlled lands in Montana.

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    “I am doing my part to mobilize every available firefighting resource at my disposal, and make them available to all fire protection agencies,” Bullock wrote in the letter. “I encourage you to do your part by directing leadership within your respective agencies to rescind this unnecessary and artificial restriction on Montana aircraft as soon as possible.”
    Newsmax reported late Friday: Bullock spokesman Mike Wessler said U.S. fire managers barred the use of UH-1H helicopters over federal land because they have objected to modifications to the state’s fleet that made them faster and able to carry more water. Bullock said in the letter that Montana pilots who have flown UH-1H helicopters on hundreds of wildland fire missions have been told to stand down as blazes broke out “in full view of our aviation staff, who watched them grow as federal firefighters waited for other ‘approved’ aircraft to be dispatched from distant locations.
    The modifications made on the fleet did not impact its flight worthiness and it has been used numerous times to battle blazes on state and private lands, with no accidents, Wessler told Reuters on Friday.
    Bullock’s letter comes as U.S. fire managers have said the nation’s firefighting resources, including crews and aircraft, are stretched thin amid a season that has brought destructive and even deadly fires to the U.S. West.
    CBS News also released similar accounts: The State of Montana has five specially-modified military surplus Bell helicopters that it uses to fight fires. [Montana DNRC Director] Tubbs says the Forest Service doesn’t acknowledge the special modifications the state has made that make Montana’s choppers safer and more effective than similar helicopters that the federal agency restricts.
    “They’re very effective,” Tubbs says. “The first firefighter that can get to a scene is one of our Bell 205s, most times. They carry a crew of 7 firefighters, so there’s a manager, 6 firefighters and a pilot. They deploy the firefighters on the ground, the firefighters hook the bucket up, the bucket goes up, they find a water source, and they start fighting that fire both on the ground and with water [dropped from above]. They’re one of the reasons that [the state of Montana is] so effective at stopping fires at less than 10 acres, and that saves money and cuts risk.”

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    CBS contacted the U.S. Forest Service Region headquarters in Missoula and said, “they responded with a statement, but said they’re not taking questions on the issue at this time. Public Affairs Staffer Elizabeth Sloan declined to comment on the accuracy of Governor Bullock’s letter, but, as part of a prepared statement, said: “The Forest Service and the State of Montana have different standards and regulations to which each must adhere.”

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    This is the second year that Montana has been barred from DEPLOYING STATE HELICOPTERS TO PUT OUT FIRES ON PUBLIC LANDS CONTROLLED BY THE UNITED STATES FOREST SERVICE. “This makes no sense, and puts the safety and property of Montanans at risk,” Governor Bullock said.

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    On this the governor and I agree. Perhaps now we can convince him to join with other states in preparing for management of federally controlled public lands to be turned over to the states. I have no doubt Montanans can and will do better than WA DC.

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    Sen Fielder represents Senate District 7 which includes all of Sanders County and Mineral County, and a southwest portion of Flathead County and western-most Missoula County. She can be reached at Sen.Jennifer.Fielder@mt.gov, by signing in at www.jenniferfielder.us, or by mail at P.O. Box 2558 Thompson Falls, MT 59873.
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    SPECIAL NOTE TO READER: Local paper: “Feds don’t help firefighting effort”, incorrectly attribute statement to Sen. Fielder
    SPECIAL NOTE TO READER: Earlier this week, I released the article below to the Sanders County Ledger with the headline as shown “Feds won’t let state put wildfires out”. The Sanders County Ledger retitled my article, “Feds don’t help firefighting effort”. This is an egregious misrepresentation of the content of my article (which, you can see below, in no way indicates that the feds are not helping firefighting efforts). Of course, the federal government has hundreds of firefighters and support contractors working the fires, many putting in valiant efforts to combat the blaze. My column points out, factually, that the federal government will not allow state firefighting aircraft to work on putting out the fires. (With the state’s help, some of these fires likely could have been extinguished before they grew out of control, as the state of Monatana has a stellar track record for stopping wildfires before they exceed 10 acres in size).
    I have requested that the Sanders County Ledger publish a retraction and apologize to their readers and the firefighters for the horrendously incorrect statement, “Feds don’t help firefighting effort”, and to make it clear it was the Ledger who made this remark, not me.
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    IDAHO
    Wildfires spark debate

    The bottom line
    “People can rant and rave about global warming being the cause of the fires, but the real reason is there is so much fuel out there and the reason for that is because the forest is not being managed,” Corkill said. “This is an irresponsible waste of a national resource. It seems it is acceptable to let a tree burn, but not acceptable to harvest a tree to build someone a house.”
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    Lawmakers say changes needed; Forest Service says it’s doing its best with available funds

    Posted: Sunday, August 30, 2015 12:00 am | Updated: 1:17 am, Sun Aug 30, 2015.

    Wildfires spark debate By BRIAN WALKER/bwalker@cdapress.com The Coeur d’ Alene Press | 25 comments

    Brad Corkill is fuming over the wildfires that have devastated the Northwest this summer.

    “In my opinion, these fires are completely avoidable,” said Corkill, owner of Whiteman Lumber Co. in Cataldo and an Idaho Fish and Game commissioner.

    “The Coeur d’Alene and St. Joe national forests have not had a major fire since the early 30s. These forests were, until 1993, two of the most heavily managed in the entire U.S. Forest Service system. They were logged in a responsible, professional manner.”

    Corkill is a 40-year veteran of the timber industry, including 37 of those years in North Idaho. He believes changes in forest management over the past 20 years have led to wildfires raging out of control this summer.

    “The road system was well-maintained (years ago) so, if a fire did break out it, it could be accessed and dealt with,” Corkill said. “Now those roads are being eliminated … .”

    Corkill said the Coeur d’Alene and St. Joe rivers were known as world-class trout fisheries, but cringes at the thought of what they may be like next spring after this summer’s fires.

    Jason Kirchner, public affairs officer with the U.S. Forest Service’s Idaho Panhandle National Forest, said his agency has been dealing with 70 different fires over 35,000 acres in the Idaho Panhandle this summer.

    He said the USFS is doing the best it can with forest management with the funding it receives, but funding has decreased 10 to 30 percent per year since 2012.

    “We’ve done a great job with management with the budgets we’ve received,” he said. “We’ve been more efficient with our dollars than what Congress expected. With that said, we can only do what we’re funded to do. Most federal budgets have decreased, and ours have been among them.”

    Kirchner said forest management is an “enormous” task that also includes restoring watersheds and wildlife habitat, hazardous fuel reduction and prescribed burns.

    “There’s more to forest management than just logs,” he said. “The American people have an expectation to do more than logging, and that’s reflected by the budget our forests receive from Congress.”

    In addition to taking care of natural resources, the USFS is the largest firefighting agency in the nation, Kirchner said.

    He said most of the region’s wildfires have been lightning-caused.

    “We’re never going to be able to avoid wildfires,” he said. “This is also not a national forest problem. There have also been major fires on BLM lands, state lands and private timberlands. This is not unique to federal lands.”

    Kirchner said citizens are encouraged to be involved in forest management through collaborative groups and comment periods.

    “We ask the public to help us drive projects – not just when projects are proposed but year-round,” he said. “We want healthy national forests.”

    Suzanne Wrasse, a spokeswoman in office of Sen. Jim Risch, R-Idaho, said simply increasing the Forest Service budget will not decrease fire severity.

    She said Risch has and will continue to support efforts that will increase forest management on federal lands, including the Farm Bill that was signed into law that gives the USFS the ability to use a categorical exclusion under the National Environmental Policy Act for the treatment of forests that have or will be prone to disease and insect infestation.

    “The implementation of this authority needs to be expanded greatly,” Wrasse said. “We have a tremendous amount of natural resources in Idaho. These resources can be and should be harvested in a sustainable manner to restore forest health. The status quo leads to stand-replacing crown fires and the worst air quality in the country.”

    Rep. Ral Labrador, R-Idaho, wrote via email he agrees that a lack of forest management has increased the frequency and intensity of the fires as USFS timber harvests have declined 80 percent in the past three decades, leaving forests unhealthy and dense with fuel that leads to catastrophic fires.

    “The core of the problem is a burdensome statutory and regulatory framework that invites legal challenges that interfere with good management,” Labrador wrote, adding that the USFS acknowledged the problem in its own 2002 report called “The Process Predicament” that concluded the agency has had trouble fulfilling its mission.

    Labrador wrote that states are more capable of forest management, which is why he reintroduced this session the Self-Sufficient Community Lands Act, which would establish pilot projects to allow states to manage as much as 2 percent of USFS lands. The same bill passed the House in 2013, but the Senate did not consider it.

    Rep. Mike Simpson, R-Idaho, is the author of the Wildfire Disaster Funding Act co-sponsored by Labrador and being considered by the House Resources Committee. The bill – which has a companion bill in the Senate that’s co-authored by Sen. Mike Crapo, R-Idaho, and Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Oregon – would allow disaster relief funds to pay for catastrophic wildfire suppression costs and ensure the USFS would have more funds for fuels reduction and other prevention work.

    Lawmakers say forest management legislation being floated eliminates “fire borrowing,” which occurs when funds are taken from the USFS fire prevention budget to cover the costs of fighting fires. That situation has kept the agency from getting out ahead of wildland fires, lawmakers say.

    Nick Goulette, project director of the Fire Adapted Communities Learning Network, said homeowners and landowners also need to take responsibility to ensure their property is cleared of fuels as that practice can save homes.

    No one at the Kootenai Environmental Alliance in Coeur d’Alene could be reached for comment on Thursday and Friday.

    Corkill said responsible forest management is needed. And he believes that should be left to forest professionals, not attorneys involved in environmental lawsuits. He said the time to act on forest management is long overdue.

    The bottom line
    “People can rant and rave about global warming being the cause of the fires, but the real reason is there is so much fuel out there and the reason for that is because the forest is not being managed,” Corkill said. “This is an irresponsible waste of a national resource. It seems it is acceptable to let a tree burn, but not acceptable to harvest a tree to build someone a house.”

    http://www.cdapress.com/news/local_news/article_10cd3bb9-6734-500a-8653-59c6988a6540.html

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  • Wildland Fires “Red Card” Cultural Resources

    Wildland Fires “Red Card” and Cultural Resources

    Wildland | Define Wildland at Dictionary.com

    dictionary.reference.com/browse/wildland

    Dictionary.com land that has not been cultivated, especially land set aside and protected as a wilderness. Origin of wildland. Expand. 1805-1815. 1805-15; wild + -land.

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    FOR THE UNDERSTANDING OF A REASONABLE PERSON

    Social networking will become the most effective means of informing and educating the public about FIRE, as traditional media and informational techniques continue to decline in popularity.

    Quadrennial Fire Review (my next posting)

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    Wildland Fire Protection and Response in the United States

    https://www.yumpu.com/…/wildland-fire-protection-and-response-in-the…

    … Wildfire, · Tribal, · Suppression, · Cooperative, · Implementation, · Contracts, · Www.iafc.org. WILDLAND Fire Protection and Response in the United States …

    A 159 page document

    WILDLAND FIRE PROTECTION AND RESPONSE IN THE UNITED STATES THE RESPONSIBILITIES, AUTHORITIES, AND ROLES OF FEDERAL, STATE, LOCAL, AND TRIBAL GOVERNMENT

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    FEDERAL WILDLAND FIRE PROTECTION:

    All federal agencies that have management and administrative responsibility for large areas of federal land also have the legal authority to protect those lands from the adverse affects of wildfire. They either provide that protection themselves or through contracts and agreements with other protection organizations. This study includes the U.S.D.A. Forest Service and four agencies within the Department of the Interior: Bureau of Land Management (BLM); National Park Service (NPS); U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service (FWS); and the Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA)

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    TRIBAL WILDLAND FIRE PROTECTION:

    The BIA, through treaties and executive orders, has the responsibility to protect tribal trust lands. The BIA cannot give up that trust responsibility, but can pass the authority to manage programs and provide protection to individual tribes. Across the country there is considerable variability in how much responsibility individual tribes have asked for and accepted, as there are 562 federally recognized tribes. Tribes may accept responsibility for individual parts of the fire program, the entire program, or none of it. They may also change their mind and retrocede (give back) responsibility to the BIA.

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    STATE WILDLAND FIRE PROTECTION:

    The statutory mission of state agencies with forestry and WILDLAND fire protection responsibilities varies significantly from state to state.  However, IN GENERAL, ALL HAVE A STATUTORY RESPONSIBILITY TO PROVIDE SERVICES IN PROTECTING STATE AND PRIVATE LANDS FROM DAMAGE BY WILDFIRE. With rare exception, state agencies support and carryout suppression programs that provide for rapid and aggressive initial response to wildfires, with the intent of minimizing their spread. Because of the diversity in organizational relationships from state to state, it is difficult to succinctly and completely summarize state responsibilities, authorities, and roles on a national scale. However, state protection programs are described in detail for the 11 study states (WA State was one of the 11 states studied in detail)

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    LOCAL WILDLAND FIRE PROTECTION:

    It is even more difficult to characterize local WILDLAND fire protection on a national basis. There is considerable diversity in legal responsibilities and authorities, not only among states, but also within states. The need for organized WILDLAND fire protection is generated at the “grass-roots” or citizen/landowner level. Most states have statutes that simply provide local government (or landowners themselves) the option to choose to have (and pay for) fire protection if they deem it necessary. It is important to note that local fire protection (structural and WILDLAND) may not be provided by government entities. Often, fire protection is provided to citizens/landowners by non-governmental entities, such as fire districts and volunteer fire departments, which are independent of county government. Common types of local fire departments include: municipal, county, district, township, volunteer, and private.

    The International Association of Fire Chiefs (IAFC) Donald K. Artley, Contractor  August, 2009

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    Wildfires force new evacuation orders in Washington state …

    www.reuters.com/…/us-usa-wildfires-idUSKCN0QQ1Z52015082…

    Reuters 6 days ago – Wildfires force new evacuation orders in Washington state … blaze that has blackened some 88,000 acres (35,600 hectares) of TRIBAL LANDS.

    TRIBAL WILDLAND FIRE PROTECTION: above

    Snippet

    WAITING UNTIL THE FIRE IS ON THE GROUND IS AN INAPPROPRIATE TIME TO EDUCATE FIRE CREWS ABOUT CULTURAL RESOURCES

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    CULTURAL RESOURCES

    NPS Archeology Guide > Cultural Resources and Fire > 3. Wildland Fire Planning

    Historic Preservation Laws – National Park Service

    www.nps.gov/history/laws.htm

    U.S. National Park Service

    Jump to NAGPRA & Native American Cultural Resources – American Indian Religious Freedom Act, as amended (42 USC 1996, 1996a: Protection …

    General – ‎Archeology – ‎Grants – ‎Maritime & Marine

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    THE “RED CARD” FIRE PREPAREDNESS AND CULTURAL RESOURCES

    THE “RED CARD” ALLOWS THEM TO SERVE AS CULTURAL THSPS DURING WILDLAND FIRES,

    Before cultural resource staff assist on the wildfire line or during prescribed burns, they must complete training for an Incident QUALIFICATION CARD, OR “RED CARD.” THE RED CARD ALLOWS THEM TO SERVE AS CULTURAL THSPS DURING WILDLAND FIRES, monitor during prescribed burns, and conduct research within active fire perimeters.

    Note that representatives from INDIAN TRIBES WHO SERVE ON FIRE TEAMS MUST ALSO BE RED CARD QUALIFIED. Cultural resource staff that play active roles during WILDLAND FIRE MANAGEMENT ACTIVITIES SHOULD COMPLETE WILDLAND FIRE RESOURCE ADVISOR (READ) TRAINING.

    Staff must successfully complete WILDLAND FIRE COURSES S130/190 and pass a work capacity test (“pack test”), outlined in PMS 310-1 Wildland Fire Qualifications System Guide (.pdf). To work on fire lines without an escort, a READ must maintain an arduous rating. Type 2 Firefighting training will also allow CULTURAL RESOURCE STAFF to participate in prescribed burns and other types of ignitions. It also provides training for personal protection while in a fire environment. To retain their rating, staff must complete an annual refresher course.

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    BACK TO THE WILDLAND FIRE PREPAREDNESS AND CULTURAL RESOURCES

    Every park in the National Park System contains cultural resources that, potentially, can be adversely affected by fire, fire treatment measures, inappropriate post-fire demolition, or ineffective rehabilitation. Fire preparedness is an important responsibility and is particularly critical in parks that do not have WILDLAND and/or structural fire plans in place. Cultural resource managers and park superintendents can take proactive steps to protect cultural resources ahead of a fire incident through…

    Contact behindmyback.org  for the full, over 5000, word document on

    NPS Archeology Guide > Cultural Resources and Fire > 3. Wildland Fire Planning

    Pearl Rains Hewett (360) 417-9452

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    Snippet from the

    Quadrennial Fire Review (my next posting)

    Social networking will become the most effective means of informing and educating the public about FIRE, as traditional media and informational techniques continue to decline in popularity.

    It was called the fire community’s “CRYSTAL BALL,” by Tom Harbour, Director of Fire and Aviation Management for the USDA Forest Service.[1]

     


  • Ways and Means for Fighting 2015 Wildfires?

    Ways and Means for Fighting 2015 Wildfires?

    Images for CUTTING FIRE LINES with bulldozers IN 2015?

    WHY ARE FIREFIGHTERS CUTTING FIRE LINES BY HAND  using The famous Pulaski tool that combines a cutting axe blade on one side and a trenching tool on the other. IMPLEMENTS TO FIGHT A FOREST FIRE, ONE TO CHOP AND ONE TO HOE, the combined an axe and a grub hoe.

    May 1, 2014 – WHEN?  An approximately 30,000-pound machines can cut about one to three miles of fire lines per hour, depending on the circumstances. BULLDOZER …

    I watched some of the Aug 25, 2015 basic fire training exercises on TV. CUTTING FIRE LINES BY HAND USING THE FAMOUS PULASKI TOOL AND SHOVELS?  The first 125 Oregon Guard troops called up to fight fires completed their training on Tuesday. Part of the training includes a physical test, where you put on a 45-pound vest and walk three miles in 45 minutes, said Winston. Another 250 troops start training on Wednesday.

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    Nov 3, 2008 – THE BACK BONE OF THE WAR ON FIRE ARE THE “FIRE DOZERS”. CATERPILLAR D-6 IS A MASTER OF FIRE LINES WITH SKIN OF …

    WHY ISN’T THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CUTTING FIRE LINES WITH A CATERPILLAR D-6?

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    THIS IS A FEDERAL CONGRESSIONAL ISSUE.

    THE NATIONAL MONUMENT DOES NOT ALLOW THE DIGGING OF FIRE LINE, CUTTING OF FIRE LINE BY BULLDOZERS OR THE DROPPING OF RETARDANT BY AIR TANKERS “except to protect life or historic, important structures,” Rubin said.

    Because the Blue Basin Fire, and a small portion of the larger Sugarloaf Fire, ARE BURNING WITHIN THE NATIONAL MONUMENT, he said firefighters must change how they contend with the blazes.

    “There are so many fossil beds throughout there that THEY DON’T WANT US TO MAKE FIRE LINES,” BALLOU SAID. “THEY DEFINITELY DON’T WANT US TO USE BULLDOZERS.”

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     H.R.3465 — NATIONAL FOREST ROADLESS AREA CONSERVATION ACT.

    NATIONAL FORESTS WERE PUT OFF-LIMITS TO MOTOR VEHICLES. Various forms of this bill have been introduced by Inslee and Senator Cantwell since 2002.

     MALHEUR NATIONAL FOREST Chainsaw use is prohibited. NO VEHICLE TRAVEL on those FS roads where access has been impeded or blocked by earthen berm, logs, boulders, barrier, barricade or gate, or as otherwise identified in the Fire Order.

    08/15/2015: STRAWBERRY MOUNTAIN WILDERNESS IS CLOSED DUE TO WILDFIRE.

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    THE WILDERNESS ACT (SECTION 4 (C)) STATES

    THAT THERE SHALL BE “NO USE OF MOTOR VEHICLES”.

    REP DEREK KILMER, SENATOR MARIA CANTWELL AND PATTY MURRAY REINTRODUCED AND WANT MORE “NO USE OF MOTOR VEHICLES” AND MORE RESTRICTED WILD OLYMPICS, WILDERNESS, WILD AND SCENIC RIVERS

    GOVENOR JAY INSLEE SUPPORTS THIS “WILD” LEGISLATION

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    THE NATIONAL MONUMENT DOES NOT ALLOW THE DIGGING OF FIRE LINE, CUTTING OF FIRE LINE BY BULLDOZERS OR THE DROPPING OF RETARDANT BY AIR TANKERS……

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    INDEED, THERE SHALL BE NO USE OF MOTOR VEHICLES, THE “FIRE DOZERS” CATERPILLAR D-6 ,THE MASTER BUILDER OF FIRE LINES,  ON THE HORRIFIC RAGING WILD FIRES BURNING  IN WA STATE.

    INSTEAD OF USING MOTOR VEHICLES “FIRE DOZERS”  TO FIGHT WA AND OREGON RAGING FOREST FIRES?

    The Aug 25, 2015 basic fire training exercises on TV. Firefighters are being taught TO CUT FIRE LINES BY HAND USING THE FAMOUS PULASKI TOOL AND SHOVELS?

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    Resources Falling Short as Washington Wildfire Grows Into Historic Monster

    NBCNews.com‎ – 21 hours ago

    Scores more firefighters raced Tuesday to the Okanogan Complex of fires, the biggest …

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    Washington state battles worst wildfire in history – MSN.com

    www.msn.com/en-za/video/comedy/…wildfire…/vi-BBm5i5n?…

    MSN

    1 day ago – “The only way to deal with them is like eating an elephant, one bite at a time. And there’s still a lot to eat,” Pechota said.

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    THIS IS AN AMERICAN  TRAGEDY,  THE LOSS OF YOUNG FIREFIGHTERS, THAT MAY WELL BE REPEATED

    The fire consumed them — killing the three men and injuring four others.

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     MY ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES,

    GOVENOR JAY INSLEE  SENATOR MARIA CANTWELL AND MURRAY

    Officials mourn lost firefighters – The Wenatchee World

    https://www.wenatcheeworld.com/news/…/officials-mo…

    Wenatchee World

    6 days ago – Tidwell and Regional Forester Jim Peña joined a press conference at Chelan County’s Fire Station … PATTY MURRAY AND MARIA CANTWELL, U.S. Rep. … The three fallen men were the first to die upon being overtaken by a wildland blaze in … “These fires have burned a big hole in our state’s heart,” Inslee said.

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    THE WILDERNESS AND ROADLESS AREA AND REDUCING THE RISK OF CATASTROPHIC WILDFIRES? (INCLUDING THE LOSS OF YOUNG FIREFIGHTERS)

    U.S. Rep. Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., introduced – THE WILDERNESS AND ROADLESS AREA “RELEASE ACT”  This is just common sense,” McCarthy said. “By opening these lands up to the residents of our local communities and across the country for their use and enjoyment, we can help create jobs, boost local economies AND REDUCE THE RISK OF CATASTROPHIC WILDFIRES.”

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    JOE WALSH, A SPOKESMAN FOR THE U.S. FOREST SERVICE, “Science changes,” Walsh said. “We like to use the latest science we have, SO WE’RE ALWAYS ON THE CUTTING EDGE.”

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    THE SCIENCE DIDN’T CHANGE…CONGRESS CHANGED THE RULES.

    Nov 3, 2008THE BACK BONE OF THE WAR ON FIRE ARE THE “FIRE DOZERS“. CATERPILLAR D-6 IS A MASTER OF FIRE LINES

    DOZERS: The Commanders of the War on Fire – YouTube

    May 1, 2014A BULLDOZER WEIGHING approximately 30,000-pounds  can STILL cut about one to three miles of FIRELINE PER HOUR, depending on the circumstances. ..

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    CONGRESS CHANGED THE RULES.

    H.R.3465 — National Forest “ROADLESS”  Area Conservation Act. NATIONAL FORESTS WERE PUT OFF-LIMITS TO MOTOR VEHICLES.

    THE WILDERNESS ACT (SECTION 4 (C)) STATES THAT THERE SHALL BE “NO USE OF MOTOR VEHICLES, MOTORIZED

    THE NATIONAL MONUMENT DOES NOT ALLOW THE DIGGING OF FIRE LINE, CUTTING OF FIRE LINE BY BULLDOZERS OR THE DROPPING OF RETARDANT BY AIR TANKERS

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    THE SCIENCE DIDN’T CHANGE…CONGRESS CHANGED THE RULES.

    1983 Bulldozers in Fire Management: Current Designs and Uses

    https://books.google.com/books?id=eLXSSApNhbAC

    Robert W. Steele, ‎Richard J. Barney – 1983 – ‎Bulldozers

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    Behind My Back | The Roadless Crew Cantwell and Inslee

    www.behindmyback.org/2014/04/…/the-roadlesscrewcantwell-and-insl

    Apr 25, 2014 – The Roadless Crew Cantwell and Inslee. H.R.3465 — National Forest “ROADLESS”  Area Conservation Act. Various forms of this bill have been introduced by Inslee and Cantwell since 2002.

    NEARLY 60 MILLION ACRES OF NATIONAL FORESTS WERE PUT OFF-LIMITS TO MOTOR VEHICLES, LIKE? OFF-LIMITS TO CUTTING FIRE LINES WITH BULLDOZERS during the Clinton administration.

    THE WILDERNESS ACT? (SECTION 4 (C)) STATES THAT

    THERE SHALL BE “NO USE OF MOTOR VEHICLES, MOTORIZED … LIKE? WILD AREAS OFF-LIMITS TO CUTTING FIRE LINES WITH BULLDOZERS?

    THE NATIONAL MONUMENT DOES NOT ALLOW THE DIGGING OF FIRE LINE, CUTTING OF FIRE LINE BY BULLDOZERS OR THE DROPPING OF RETARDANT BY AIR TANKERS

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    Washington’s Department of Natural Resources is looking for citizen volunteers who have red cards showing they have WILDLAND FIREFIGHTER TRAINING. People with blue cards showing firefighting equipment training are also needed.

    REALLY? WILDLAND?  FIREFIGHTER?

     THE WILDERNESS ACT? NATIONAL PARK WILDERNESS? WILD OLYMPICS? WILD AND SCENIC RIVERS? NATIONAL MONUMENTS? National Forest Roadless Area Conservation Act

    LIKE  WILD AREAS OFF-LIMITS TO MOTOR VEHICLES?

    LIKE? WILD AREAS OFF-LIMITS TO CUTTING FIRE LINES WITH BULLDOZERS

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    Images for CUTTING FIRE LINES with bulldozers 2015

    DOZERS: The Commanders of the War on Fire – YouTube

    ▶ 9:54

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=alECYNLdLec

    Nov 3, 2008 – Uploaded by Gérard Angé

    THE BACK BONE OF THE WAR ON FIRE ARE THE “FIRE DOZERS“. CATERPILLAR D-6 IS A MASTER OF FIRE LINES WITH SKIN OF …

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    1983 Bulldozers in Fire Management: Current Designs and Uses

    https://books.google.com/books?id=eLXSSApNhbAC

    Robert W. Steele, ‎Richard J. Barney – 1983 – ‎Bulldozers

    Reports on status and changes in use of bulldozers in fire control and related … BULLDOZERS ARE MAINLY UTILIZED TO CUT FIRE LINES TO MINERAL SOIL IN HEAVY FOREST FUELS …

     May 1, 2014 – The approximately 30,000-pound machines can cut about one to three miles of fire lines per hour, depending on the circumstances. Bulldozer …

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    Behind My Back | WOW Let Nature Take Its Course

    www.behindmyback.org/2015/07/14/wow-let-nature-take-its-course/

    JUL 14, 2015 – OLYMPIC NATIONAL PARK WILDERNESS WILDFIRE POLICY “LET IT BURN” … FORESTS WERE PUT OFF-LIMITS TO MOTOR VEHICLES, ROAD BUILDING … “

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    Fire Suppression – USFS History – Forest History Society

    www.foresthistory.org › … › Policy & Law › Fire

    Forest History Society

    Mar 17, 2015 – When the U.S. Forest Service was established in 1905, it was given managerial control of these lands, soon renamed national forests. … IT BEGAN WITH ALLOWING NATURAL-CAUSED FIRES TO BURN IN DESIGNATED WILDERNESS AREAS.

    THE WILDERNESS ACT (SECTION 4 (C)) STATES THAT THERE SHALL BE “NO USE OF MOTOR VEHICLES, MOTORIZED ... Off-highways vehicles (OHVs) are typically four wheel drive vehicles, …. lands were first put offlimits to development as Wilderness Study Areas.

    THE WILDERNESS ACT? NATIONAL PARK WILDERNESS? WILD OLYMPICS? WILD AND SCENIC RIVERS? National Forest “ROADLESS” Area Conservation Act

    LIKE WILD AREAS OFF-LIMITS TO MOTOR VEHICLES?

    LIKE? WILD AREAS OFF-LIMITS TO CUTTING FIRE LINES WITH BULLDOZERS

    AND WOW, THE NATIONAL MONUMENTS?

     THE NATIONAL MONUMENT DOES NOT ALLOW THE DIGGING OF FIRE LINE, CUTTING OF FIRE LINE BY BULLDOZERS OR THE DROPPING OF RETARDANT BY AIR TANKERS

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    MALHEUR NATIONAL FOREST Chainsaw use is prohibited. NO VEHICLE TRAVEL on those FS roads where access has been impeded or blocked by earthen berm, logs, boulders, barrier, barricade or gate, or as otherwise identified in the Fire Order.

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    Public-Use Restrictions – USDA Forest Service

    www.fs.usda.gov/…/alerts-notice…

    United States Department of Agriculture

    Restrictions can affect where you are allowed to smoke, the types of roads you can … roads WHERE ACCESS HAS BEEN IMPEDED OR BLOCKED BY EARTHEN BERM, LOGS, BOULDERS, barrier, barricade or gate, or as otherwise identified in the Fire Order.

    LIKE? OFF-LIMITS TO CUTTING FIRE LINES WITH BULLDOZERS WHERE ACCESS HAS BEEN IMPEDED OR BLOCKED BY EARTHEN BERM, LOGS, BOULDERS?

    INSTEAD OF USING MOTOR VEHICLES  LIKE, “FIRE DOZERS”  TO FIGHT WA AND OREGON RAGING FOREST FIRES?

     The Aug 25, 2015 basic fire training exercises on TV. Firefighters are being taught AND TRAINED TO CUT FIRE LINES BY HAND USING THE FAMOUS PULASKI TOOL AND SHOVELS?

    GO FIGURE?

    JOE WALSH, A SPOKESMAN FOR THE U.S. FOREST SERVICE, “Science changes,” Walsh said. “We like to use the latest science we have, SO WE’RE ALWAYS ON THE CUTTING EDGE.”

    THE SCIENCE DIDN’T CHANGE…CONGRESS CHANGED THE RULES.


  • WA State Wildfire History page 2

    SUMMARY OF RECENT WILDFIRES : 1849 TO 1952

    (1864) THE DROUGHT WAS SO SEVERE THAT SUMMER that heavy thunder showers on September 2 (1864) apparently did little to quell the fires.

    Records taken at the mouth of the Columbia River SHOWED THAT THIS WAS THE DRIEST JUNE, JULY, AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER FOR THE 58-YEAR RECORD UP TO THAT TIME.

    THIS APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN THE WORST FIRE SEASON SINCE THE EARLY 1700’S.

    1902.THERE WERE PERHAPS HUNDREDS OF FIRES BURNING IN WESTERN WASHINGTON AND IN WESTERN OREGON IN SEPTEMBER

    IT WAS PERHAPS THE WORST FIRE YEAR OF THE LAST 275 YEARS, BEING MORE SEVERE, EVEN, THAN THE FIRE SEASON OF 1868.

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    WHAT CAN BE LEARNED FROM THIS WILDFIRE HISTORY?

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    I FOUND THIS HISTORY OF WILDFIRE INFORMATION HERE…

    THIS IS A 502 PAGE DOCUMENT (a huge pdf 11.5 MG file)

    FIRE HISTORY page 19

    Plant Associations of the Olympic – Oregon State University

    ir.library.oregonstate.edu/…/Olympic%20NF%20Plant%20Associations.pdf

    by JA Henderson – ‎1989 – ‎Cited by 149 – ‎Related articles

    Acres burned on the Olympic National Forest, 1905 to 1985. 16. Figure 8. …… resistant to erosion than shale or slate (labor 1975) …… Nuttall’s PEAVINE. UBO2.

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    1849 Great fires burned in the Coast Range of Oregon, but apparently none occurred in the Olympics.

    1864 to 1868 Many large fires burned in Oregon and Washington in 1864, 1867 and 1868.

    The Ludlow- Quilcene Fire started in slash near Port Ludlow in September 1864 and burned several thousand acres under a high east wind. The fire burned on Mt. Walker, Mt.Turner, and the Quilcene Ridge. Most of the area burned in one or two days. Other fires occurred in the area, including Vancouver Island. In 1868, again many Fires occurred in western Washington and Oregon.

    Much of the area was covered by smoke for extended periods.

    Apparently little of the Olympic National Forest burned in this year, but there were fires all around.

    There was at least one large fire between Olympia and Seabeck (August13) and others in the San Juans, near Montesano, on both sides of Hood Canal, Discovery Bay, near Bellingham, Snoqualmie, and on Vancouver Island.

    These Fires burned into September, flaring up under east wind conditions.

    (1864) THE DROUGHT WAS SO SEVERE THAT SUMMER that heavy thunder showers on September 2 (1864) apparently did little to quell the fires.

    Records taken at the mouth of the Columbia River

    SHOWED THAT THIS WAS THE DRIEST JUNE, JULY, AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER FOR THE 58-YEAR RECORD UP TO THAT TIME.

    THIS APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN THE WORST FIRE SEASON SINCE THE EARLY 1700’S.

    Most of these fires started from land clearing or careless tending of cooking fires.

    1885 The Nellton Burn near Lake Quinault started from right-of-way clearing on the old Quinault trail. it burned about 2000 acres.

     1890 and 1891 Several fires apparently burned in the Soleduck Valley in the early 1890’s. One in Kugel Creek burned about 2000 acres. Others occurred in the Bear Creek, Pysht River and Twin Creeks area.

     In 1890 land clearing fires burned out of control in the foothills near SEQUIM . Rainfall that next winter was light and at least one of these fires survived the winter by moldering in rotted logs or stumps. It flared up the next spring and burned toward the south, Eventually covering about 30,000 acres on the Quilcene District, mostly In the DUNGENESS drainage.

     1902 This was another fire year like 1868. Many fires burned throughout western Washington and Oregon. Much property and at least 16 lives were lost.

    1902 The biggest of the fires during this summer was the famous Yacolt Burn In the Lewis Valley. It burned about 250,000 acres.

    1902 The biggest fire on the Olympic Peninsula, the Elma-Humptulips Fire, burned from near EIma to the Humptulips River mostly on September11. Both the Vacolt and the Elma-Humptulips fires burned under high east wind conditions. A small fire appears to have burned near the Tubal Cain Mine.

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    1902.THERE WERE PERHAPS HUNDREDS OF FIRES BURNING IN WESTERN WASHINGTON AND IN WESTERN OREGON IN SEPTEMBER

    IT WAS PERHAPS THE WORST FIRE YEAR OF THE LAST 275 YEARS, BEING MORE SEVERE, EVEN, THAN THE FIRE SEASON OF 1868.

    1907 The Great Soleduck Fire burned about 12,800 acres in the Soleduck Valley between Lake Crescent and Bear Creek along the south side of Snider Ridge In the summer of 1907. ft started in April when a settler named Cap Mueller was burning ferns in a field (a common practice at the time).

    THE 1907 FIRE WAS NOT PUT OUT, AS WAS ALSO COMMON, AND IT SPREAD TO NEARBY FOREST.

    By July 1907 it was burning out of control and threatening other settlers in the Lake Crescent-Soleduck Valley area. Most of the area burned during one afternoon when a strong east wind came up (Morgenroth 1935).

     1908.. Another fire In the same area burned about 3000 acres in 1908.

    1910 Many fires burned in western Washington and Oregon, but none of any consequence and apparently no fires occurred on the Olympic National Forest.

    1910 The big fires In this summer occurred in Idaho and Montana.

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    1916 to 1920 Many small to moderate fires burned on the Forest during these dry years. Most were logging related fires, although some were caused by lightning.Most of these fires occurred in the rainshadow of the Olympics, especially In Environmental Zones 9, 10, and11.

    THE BIGGEST OF THESE FIRES WERE

    Duckabush Fire – 4810 acres (1918)

    Littleton Fire – 3200 acres (1920)

    Slab Camp Fire – 3000 acres (1917)

    Dosewaiilps Fire – 2665 acres (1918)

    Canyon Hill Fire – 2170 acres (1918)

    Mt. Zion Fire – 2000 acres (1916)

    1922 Duckabush Fire, Another 2000 acres burned in the

    Duckabush drainage in 1922.

     

    1924 and 1925 This was another dry period with many fires in the Olympics, mostly in the rainshadow area.

    The biggest of these fires were:

    Green Mt. Fire – 9615 acres (1925)

    Twin Creek Fire – 9250 acres (1924)

    Discovery Bay Fire – 5000 acres (1924)

    Snow Creek Fire – 3825 acres (1925)

    Snow Creek Fire – 3100 acres (1924)

    Phoenix Camp Fire – 3080 acres (1924)

    Penney Creek Fire – 1774 acres (1924)

    1928 The Hobi Fire burned 3507 acres near Quinault. In

    1927 , 35,000 acres of the Vacolt burn in the Lewis River reburned.

    1929 Many lightning fires were started this year. The Forest recorded 85 lightning caused fires.

    The biggest was the Interrorom Fire which burned 8602 acres in the lower Duckabush and Fulton Creek drainages. Also, 1495 acres burned in the Hamma Hamma drainage.

    1930 This was another year with many lightning fires,

    120 on the Forest, but none larger than 1000 acres.

    1932 The Hamma Hamme fire started from logging and burned 2165 acres.

    1933A few small fires burned on the Forest

    The Tillam00k fire in Oregon covered about 250,000 acres.

    1939 The Deep Creek Fire burned 13,000 acres of which 3460 acres were on the Olympic National Forest

    1942 Two fires burned In the Bear Creek-Calawah River area and covered 5844 acres.

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    1951 The Great Forks Fire, also called the Port Angeles-

    Western (PAW) Fire covered about 33,000 acres (18,500

    acres of National Forest land) (Figure 8).

    In August, a fire started along the Port Angeles-Western right-of-way. The

    fire was contained, but by September 19th it flared up

    again. By the morning of September 20th it was raging

    out of control, carried by a strong east wind. At 2:30 pm

    everyone In the town of Forks was ordered to evacuate.

    The town was thought to be doomed. By evening the

    wind shifted, and an oncoming low pressure system

    helped stop the fire at the outskirts of town. Over 30

    buildings were burned, Including one mill, a motel, and

    28 houses (Smith 1976, Campbell 1979).

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    1952 At least two fires burned in the Bear Creek- Deadman Creek area, and covered about 16,000 acres.

    This was the last big fire to occur on the Forest.

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    OBVIOUSLY WE NEED MORE INFORMATION 1952 TO AUG 21,2015

    I need to do more research…..

    IT SAYS  Acres burned on the Olympic National Forest, 1905 to 1985,  IS  SOMEWHERE IN THE 1989,  502 PAGE DOCUMENT

    Plant Associations of the Olympic – Oregon State University

    ir.library.oregonstate.edu/…/Olympic%20NF%20Plant%20Associations.pdf

    by JA Henderson – ‎1989 – ‎Cited by 149 – ‎Related articles

    Acres burned on the Olympic National Forest, 1905 to 1985. 16. Figure 8. …… resistant to erosion than shale or slate (labor 1975) …… Nuttall’s PEAVINE. UBO2.


  • WA State Wildfire History page 1

    WA State Wildfire History page 1

    THIS WAS A VERY LARGE FIRE OR SERIES OF FIRES WHICH SWEPT WESTERN WASHINGTON AND BURNED AT LEAST HALF OF THE OLYMPIC PENINSULA. IT OCCURRED IN ABOUT THE YEAR 1308.

     5. THIS FIRE OR SERIES OF FIRES APPARENTLY BURNED MORE THAN ONE MILLION ACRES ON THE OLYMPIC PENINSULA, AND 3 TO 10 MILLION ACRES IN WESTERN WASHINGTON.

    WHAT CAN BE LEARNED FROM THIS WILDFIRE HISTORY?

    What can be learned from recent wildfires?

    The Carlton Complex WILDFIRE 2014?

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    If you like WA State history and are concerned about the 2015 WA State WILDFIRES?

    You will be fascinated by the snippets found in this historical  502 page document.

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    One aspect of the WILDFIRE HISTORY of the Olympics seems certain–One cannot characterize the fire patterns of one period by knowing what it is in another.

    The occurrence of wildfires on the Olympic Peninsula is closely tied to climate and climatic history

    CLIMATE-Climatic History

    Even with our extensive network of climatic stations, modern technology and satellites, we still don’t understand the current climate very well.

    FROM THE WETTEST PART OF THE USA TO AN EMERGENCY DROUGHT?

    To a Major WILDFIRE Disaster Declaration?

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    Wildfires | Governor Jay Inslee – Washington Governor

    www.governor.wa.gov/tags/wildfires

    Jay Inslee late yesterday urged President Obama to approve his request for a Major Disaster Declaration, which would provide much needed federal assistance …

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    Our earliest evidence of fire in the Olympics comes from a bog in the Hoh River drainage. two fires which appeared to have burned in the lower Hoh River drainage between 7200 and 8700 years ago.

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    Three great burning periods occurred from 1300 to1750 during the Little Ice Age. The first occurred at the end of the Medieval Optimum and the beginning of the Little Ice Age.

    THIS WAS A VERY LARGE FIRE OR SERIES OF FIRES WHICH SWEPT WESTERN WASHINGTON AND BURNED AT LEAST HALF OF THE OLYMPIC PENINSULA. IT OCCURRED IN ABOUT THE YEAR 1308.

     5. THIS FIRE OR SERIES OF FIRES APPARENTLY BURNED MORE THAN ONE MILLION ACRES ON THE OLYMPIC PENINSULA, AND 3 TO 10 MILLION ACRES IN WESTERN WASHINGTON.

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    An interesting aspect to these three great burning episodes is their correlation with the long-term sunspot cycle (Figure 6). Since the Medieval Optimum, there have been three extended periods when there were virtually no sunspots on the sun.

    These periods were the Wolf Sunspot Minimum from 1282 to 1342 (Stuiver and Quay 1980), the Sporer Minimum from 1416 to 1534 (Eddy 1977,Stuiver and Quay 1980) and the Maunder Minimum from 1645 to 1715 (Eddy 1976).

    THE THREE BURNING PERIODS AND THE FIVE BIGGEST FIRES (I.E. ABOUT 1308,1448, 1508, 1668, AND 1701) ALL OCCURRED DURING THESE THREE PERIODS OF VERY LOW SUNSPOTS.

    The correlation between low sunspot numbers and increased fires in western Washington is speculative.

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    WHO KNEW? I FOUND THIS HISTORY OF WILDFIRE INFORMATION HERE…

    GO ONLINE AND READ IT….

    Plant Associations of the Olympic – Oregon State University

    ir.library.oregonstate.edu/…/Olympic%20NF%20Plant%20Associations.pdf

    by JA Henderson – ‎1989 – ‎Cited by 149 – ‎Related articles

    Acres burned on the Olympic National Forest, 1905 to 1985. 16. Figure 8. …… resistant to erosion than shale or slate (labor 1975) …… Nuttall’s PEAVINE. UBO2.

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    Forested Plant Associations of the Olympic National Forest

    United States Department of Agriculture- Forest Service- Pacific Northwest Region

    R6-ECOL-TP 001-88 1989

    THIS IS A 502 PAGE DOCUMENT (a huge pdf 11.5 MG file)

    FIRE HISTORY page 19

    The occurrence of wildfires on the Olympic Peninsula is closely tied to climate and climatic history (see p. 32). It appears that the pattern of fires has been as variable as the pattern of past climates. Some periods have had many stand destroying fires, others have had almost none. Still other periods may have had a pattern of high fire frequency but low fire intensity.  Because of this variability and the many factors involved, one aspect of the fire history of the Olympics seems certain–one cannot characterize the fire patterns of one period by knowing what it is in another.

    I have COMPILED  a 5736 word document related to 

    WILDFIRE HISTORY beginning  between 7200 and 8700 years ago.

    SUMMARY OF RECENT FIRES: BEGINNING IN 1849

    Including…

    1951 The Great Forks Fire, also called the Port Angeles-Western (PAW) Fire covered about 33,000 acres (18,500acres of National Forest land) (Figure 8).In August, a fire started along the Port Angeles-Western right-of-way. The fire was contained, but by September 19th it flared up again. By the morning of September 20th it was raging out of control, carried by a strong east wind. At 2:30 pm everyone In the town of Forks was ordered to evacuate.The town was thought to be doomed. By evening the wind shifted, and an oncoming low pressure system helped stop the fire at the outskirts of town. Over 30buildings were burned, Including one mill, a motel, and 28 houses (Smith 1976, Campbell 1979).

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    Our family was evacuated from Sol Duc Hot Springs, in a government car, with fire on both sides of the road.

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    CLIMATE-Climatic History

    This is a time scale that spans millions of years

    THE CLIMATE OF THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST CANNOT BE RELIABLY RECONSTRUCTED FOR PERIODS EARLIER THAN ABOUT 25,000 YEARS AGO.

    THE CLIMATE CAN ALSO BE CHARACTERIZED BY HAVING A SUMMER DROUGHT.

    THIS RELATES TO THE HIGH FREQUENCY OF FIRES DURING THE SAME PERIOD

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    AND I HAVE INCLUDED THE HISTORIC CHANGES IN SEA LEVEL. (because it was there)

    AFTER THE RISE OF THE CASCADE AND OLYMPIC MOUNTAINS.

    The effect of this was for sea level to recede rapidly to a level contemporary with ice age sea level or about 400 feet below its present level. This occurred about 11,000 years ago

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    Indeed, it shall take several more chapters in the book of Revelations by Pearl Revere,  to  post more snippets of this amazing historical documentation on my website.

     


  • WOW Let Nature Take Its Course

    WOW,  HOW WILD,  ONP  Let Nature Take Its  Course

    Uncle Sam is gone Replaced by a woman?

    Who is DOT DOROTHY? DOT GOV?

    www.fhwa.DOT.GOV/…/sidewalks.pdf

    aka  the Federal Highway Administration

    IS IN CHARGE OF TRAILS FOR ACCESS?

    Designing Sidewalks and Trails for Access – Federal …

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    SO, WHO IS IN CHARGE OF THIS…. LET NATURE TAKE ITS COURSE?

    Olympic National Park WILDERNESS WILDFIRE POLICY “LET IT BURN”

    LET NATURE TAKE ITS COURSE… ONP POLICY ON PUBLIC ACCESS

    LET SLIDES,SLIDE AND  BLOCK PUBLIC ACCESS ROADS AND  PUBLIC ACCESS TRAILS.. LET NATURE TAKE IT’S COURSE ..

    ONP WHISKEY Bend Road CLOSED TO VEHICLES INDEFINITELY DUE TO SLIDES (LIKE FOREVER?)

    The Elwha River Trail stretches 28.4 miles south from Whiskey Bend Road to Low Divide (3,602′), and continues another 16.4 miles as the North Fork Quinault River Trail to form one of the longest contiguous hiking routes in Olympic National Park.

    ONP ROAD CLOSED FROM THE ELWHA RIVER VALLEY TO HURRICANE RIDGE DUE TO SLIDES

    AND… Does this mean our kids, who love to hike  THROUGH THE ELWHA RIVER “GATEWAY TO THE OLYMPICS” TRAILS TO THE OLYMPIC HOT SPRINGS IS CLOSED INDEFINITELY (LIKE FOREVER?)

    SHOULD THE ONP TEMPORARY CLOSED SIGNS GIVE A PUBLIC NOTICE WARNING?

    NATURE HAS TAKEN “YOUR” COURSE OF PUBLIC ACCESS TO ROADS AND TRAILS AND YOU CAN’T GET THERE FROM HERE.

    WHEN THE WARNING SIGN SHOULD ACCURATELY READ

    THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS HAS TAKEN “YOUR” COURSE OF PUBLIC ACCESS TO ROADS AND TRAILS AND YOU CAN’T GET THERE FROM HERE.

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    VOTING TAXPAYING  CITIZENS,  MUST ACKNOWLEDGE AND GIVE CREDIT TO OUR WA STATE ELECTED REPRESENTATIVE,

    GOVENOR JAY INSLEE, SENATORS PATTY MURRAY, MARIA CANTWELL AND REP. DEREK KILMER

    FOR, INTRODUCING AND REINTRODUCING,

    AND  PROMOTING WILD, WILDERNESS,WILD AND SCENIC RIVERS

    AND THE ROADLESS AREAS ACT.

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     WOW, WHO KNEW? HOW WILD…..

    NEARLY 60 MILLION ACRES OF NATIONAL FORESTS WERE PUT OFF-LIMITS TO MOTOR VEHICLES, ROAD BUILDING AND LOGGING DURING THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION.

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    WOW, WHO KNEW? HOW WILD? HOW ROADLESS?

     WHO TRIED TO STOP IT?

    “MILLIONS OF ACRES OF LAND ACROSS THE UNITED STATES ARE BEING HELD UNDER LOCK AND KEY unnecessarily,” McCarthy said. “My bill acts on recommendations made by government agencies managing these lands so they are opened up for increased public use.”

    “This is just common sense,” “By opening these lands up to the residents of our local communities and across the country for their use and enjoyment, we can help create jobs, boost local economies

    And, REDUCE THE RISK OF CATASTROPHIC WILDFIRES.”

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    IT WAS NOT NATURE THAT  PUT “MILLIONS OF ACRES OF LAND ACROSS THE UNITED STATES UNDER LOCK AND KEY

    IT WAS NOT NATURE THAT CLOSED 60 MILLION ACRES OF NATIONAL FORESTS TO MOTOR VEHICLES, ROAD BUILDING AND LOGGING. IT WAS CONGRESS DURING THE  CLINTON ADMINISTRATION.

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    Who is responsible for this? Who shall be held accountable?

    IT IS AND WAS  CONGRESS  THAT LEGISLATED AND ENACTED , NATIONAL PARK WILDERNESS ACT AND THE  NATIONAL FOREST ROADLESS AREA CONSERVATION ACT.

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    HISTORICALLY IT WAS NPS POLICY,  TO LET NATURE TAKE IT’S COURSE, LET PUBLIC ACCESS SLIDE, LET PUBLIC ACCESS WASH AWAY, LET PUBLIC ACCESS ERODE, LET PUBLIC ACCESS ROADS AND TRAILS BE CLOSED BY NATURE  AND JUST DISAPPEAR ON ONP MAPS, AND IF NPS, ONP REALLY WANTED TO TAKE  A FEW CHUNKS OF PRIVATE PROPERTY, IMMINENT DOMAIN ALWAYS CLINCHED THE DEAL.

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    HISTORICALLY DISCLOSED IN 1944 THE LONG RANGE PLAN FOR ONP

    WE MUST DEFINITELY ASK CONGRESS OUR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES IF TEMPORARILY CLOSED IS JUST ANOTHER PART OF THE 1944 LONG RANGE PLAN FOR ONP?

    AS DISCLOSED BY the acting Olympic National Park Superintendent Preston Macy

    I should not tell you this, but the long range plan of the National Park Service is to take the whole Olympic Peninsula over and put it in the Olympic National Park and move everyone off the Olympic Peninsula.”

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    NOW ABOUT THE NPS WILDFIRE POLICY,  “LET IT BURN”.

    I’M ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN THAT THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF ACRES OF 2015 WILDFIRES,  FOR PUBLIC VIEWING, THE HORRIFIC INCINERATED FOREST AREAS, WILL BE A REALLY BIG A TOURIST ATTRACTION.

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    SOB STORY  “WE HAVE NO MONEY TO REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE FOR PUBLIC ACCESS ON ROADS AND TRAILS.

    THE REALITY OF THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE AGENDA,  IS WE ONLY HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO ACQUIRE AND  TAKE MORE PUBLIC LAND

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    Behind My Back | The Roadless Crew Cantwell and Inslee

    www.behindmyback.org/2014/04/…/the-roadless-crew-cantwell-and-insl…

    Apr 25, 2014 – The Roadless Crew Cantwell and Inslee. H.R.3465 — National Forest Roadless Area Conservation Act.

    SINCE 2002 Various forms of this bill have been introduced by INSLEE AND CANTWELL .

    CANTWELL said. “There is an “URGENT” need to safeguard the remaining undeveloped forest lands as a home “FOR WILDLIFE”, a haven for recreation and a heritage for future generations,”

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    WE MUST DEFINITELY, ASK CONGRESS, OUR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES, IF IT WAS THEIR LEGISLATED INTENT?

    FOR TEMPORARILY CLOSED PUBLIC ACCESS TO BE  A PRELUDE  TO CLOSED ROADS AND TRAILS, MEANING, INDEFINITELY CLOSED MUST LEAD TO DEFINITELY CLOSED FOREVER TO PUBLIC ACCESS?

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     Does this mean our kids, who love to hike the Whiskey Bend trail, to the falls, cannot do it anymore?

    AND… Does this mean our kids, who love to hike  THROUGH THE ELWHA RIVER “GATEWAY TO THE OLYMPICS” TRAILS TO THE OLYMPIC HOT SPRINGS IS CLOSED INDEFINITELY (LIKE FOREVER?)

    ONP WHISKEY CREEK ROAD CLOSED TO VEHICLES INDEFINITELY DUE TO SLIDES (LIKE FOREVER?)

    ONP ROAD CLOSED FROM THE ELWHA RIVER VALLEY TO HURRICANE RIDGE DUE TO SLIDES

    ————————————————————————–

    SHOULD THE ONP TEMPORARY CLOSED ROAD AND TRAIL SIGNS GIVE A PUBLIC NOTICE WARNING?

    NATURE HAS TAKEN “YOUR” COURSE OF PUBLIC ACCESS ROADS AND TRAILS AND YOU CAN’T GET THERE FROM HERE

    WOW, DOES WILD OLYMPIC NATIONAL PARK POLICY DENY EQUAL ACCESS TO ALL CITIZENS.

    WOW, DOES THE NPS, WILD OLYMPIC NATIONAL PARK POLICY DENY EQUAL ACCESS TO DISABLED AMERICAN CITIZENS UNDER.  

    The Americans with Disabilities Act: Ensuring Equal Access …

    THE TRIBES RESERVED THEIR RIGHT TO CONTINUE TRADITIONAL ACTIVITIES ON LANDS … THE RIGHT OF TAKING FISH, AT ALL USUAL AND ACCUSTOMED GROUNDS AND STATIONS, ..

     The 300 MILLION AMERICAN CITIZENS RIGHT TO CONTINUE TRADITIONAL ACTIVITIES?

    HIKING THE GATEWAY TO THE OLYMPIC NATION PARK TRAIL SYSTEM?  ON PUBLIC LANDS AT ALL USUAL AND ACCUSTOMED GROUNDS AND STATIONS IN THE OLYMPIC NATIONAL PARK, AS PROMISED, IN 1938,  FOR THE FULL USE AND ENJOYMENT

    THE PUBLIC LANDS, ROADS AND TRAILS MUST BE RESTORED BY CONGRESS, AT ALL USUAL AND ACCUSTOMED GROUNDS AND STATIONS IN THE OLYMPIC NATIONAL PARK, AS PROMISED, IN 1938,  FOR THE FULL USE AND ENJOYMENT OF AMERICAN CITIZENS.

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    JULY 12, 2015, WE  THE CITIZENS ARE DEMANDING OUR RIGHT TO CONTINUE TRADITIONAL ACTIVITIES ON OLYMPIC NATIONAL PARK PUBLIC LANDS.

    CONGRESS MUST ONLY LEGISLATE FUNDING NPS  TO MAINTAIN AND REPLACE OUR PUBLIC ACCESS.

    CONGRESS MUST PROHIBIT NPS FROM USING AMERICAN TAX DOLLARS TO FURTHER RESTRICT AMERICAN CITIZENS RIGHT TO ACCESS PUBLIC LAND.

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    INDEED, WE  THE CITIZENS ARE DEMANDING THE RIGHT TO “TAKE A HIKE,  AT ALL OF OUR USUAL AND ACCUSTOMED GROUNDS AND STATIONS IN THE OLYMPIC NATIONAL PARK ON PUBLIC LAND.

    AND, THE CITIZENS OF THE OLYMPIC PENINSULA, WE RESPECTFULLY INSIST THAT INSLEE, KILMER, MURRY, AND CANTWELL “TAKE A HIKE”

    AND STOP INTRODUCING “WILD BILLS”  THAT SHALL TAKE  MORE OF OUR RIGHTS AND ACCESS TO OUR PUBLIC NATIONAL PARK LAND.

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     A  public comment from a seated elected representative.

    “IF WE DON’T WANT YOU TO DO IT WE WILL MAKE IT AS DIFFICULT AS POSSIBLE”

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    The BOTTOM LINE, the  2015 reality of this reelection campaign statement is….

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    IF WE (THE GOVERNMENT) DON’T WANT YOU TO DO IT.…

     NOT ONLY WILL  WE (THE GOVERNMENT) MAKE IT AS DIFFICULT AS POSSIBLE…

     WE (THE GOVERNMENT) WILL MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE….

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      IF YOU WANT TO READ MORE…… the full text of this 1430 word comment is on behindmyback.org.

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    Designing Sidewalks and Trails for Access – Federal …

    www.fhwa.DOT.GOV/…/sidewalks.pdf

    Federal Highway Administration

    Dorothy V. Galvan. Julie B. Kirschbaum, B.A. … Government assumes no liability for its contents or use thereof. The contents of this report …… Figure 4-56: Traffic sign indicating upcoming steep grade (US DOT, 1988). ……………. 68. Figure 4-57: …

     

    Appendix A: Abbreviations and Acronyms

    5. Trail Design for Access

    5.1 Universal Trail-Assessment Process

    5.2 Design Guideline Comparisons

    5.3 Trail Types

    5.4 Access Characteristics

    5.4.1 Grade

    5.4.2 Rest Areas

    5.4.3 Cross-Slope

    5.4.4 Width

    5.4.5 Passing Space

    5.4.6 Changes in Level

    5.4.7 Vertical Clearance

    5.4.8 Surface

    5.4.9 Trail Information

    5.4.10 Maintenance

    5.5 Design Conflicts

    5.5.1 Trail Elements

    5.5.2 Built Facilities Along Trails

    5.5.3 Designing Trail Amenities for Multiple User Groups

    5.5.4 Drainage Control Measures and Access

    5.5.5 Complying with Design Standards

    5.5.6 Difficulty Ratings for Trails

    5.6 User Conflicts

    5.6.1 Experience Level

    5.6.2 Expectations

    5.6.3 Conflicts Among User Groups

    5.6.3.1 Technology differences

    5.6.3.2 Movement patterns

    5.6.3.3 Perceived environmental impact

    5.6.3.4 New and newly popularized sports

    5.6.4 Lack of Communication Among Trail Users

    5.6.5 Number of Users

    5.6.6 Minimizing User Conflicts on Trails .

    5.7 Conclusion

     

     

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    INTRODUCED BY MR. INSLEE (FOR HIMSELF),

    112th CONGRESS

    1st Session

    H. R. 3465

    To protect inventoried roadless areas in the National Forest System.

    IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

    November 17, 2011

    INTRODUCED BY MR. INSLEE (FOR HIMSELF)

    The tribes reserved their right to continue traditional activities on lands … The right of taking fish, at all usual and accustomed grounds and stations, ..

     

    THE 1938 CREATION OF OLYMPIC NATIONAL PARK, GAVE CITIZENS  THE RIGHT TO FULL USE AND ENJOYMENT OF OLYMPIC NATIONAL PARK LAND.

     

    JULY 10, 2015, WE ARE DEMANDING OUR RIGHT TO CONTINUE TRADITIONAL ACTIVITIES ON OLYMPIC NATIONAL PARK PUBLIC LANDS.

     

    INDEED, WE  THE CITIZENS ARE DEMANDING THE RIGHT TO TAKE A HIKE AT ALL USUAL AND ACCUSTOMED GROUNDS AND STATIONS

     

    AND, THE CITIZENS OF THE OLYMPIC PENINSULA INSIST THAT KILMER, MURRY, AND CANTWELL TAKE A HIKE.. AND STOP INTRODUCING “WILD BILLS”  THAT SHALL TAKE  OUR RIGHTS TO OUR PUBLIC LAND.

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    OVER 95 PERCENT OF OLYMPIC NATIONAL PARK HAS BEEN DESIGNATED AS THE OLYMPIC WILDERNESS.

     


  • Wildfires From Crisis to Disaster

    Wildfires From Crisis to Man Made Disaster

     I posted a comment about CRISIS’S yesterday on my website.

    Applicable to  WILDFIRES CRISIS.

    WHAT IS CRISIS?

    CRISIS by definition: a CRITICAL MOMENT, situation or period in which things are very uncertain, difficult, or painful, ESPECIALLY A TIME WHEN ACTION MUST BE TAKEN TO AVOID COMPLETE DISASTER OR BREAKDOWN, a time when something very important FOR THE FUTURE HAPPENS OR IS DECIDED.

     

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    CRISIS by definition: a CRITICAL MOMENT

    Fire Name: Carlton Complex (South Zone) Start Date: 7/14/2014 Cause: Lightning

    THIS IS A CRITICAL MOMENT, A TIME WHEN ACTION MUST BE TAKEN TO AVOID COMPLETE DISASTER.

    CRITICAL MOMENT ReportedI walked outside, at 11 p.m. last night, and smelled smoke.  I was very concerned that if there was a fire around, that it would be allowed to get out of control before DNR got off their collective behinds and got with the program.

    CRITICAL MOMENT Reported, The all-out assault – should have happened when smoke was first seen.  Instead, they allowed the fire to get beyond their ability to control it before they did anything.

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    CRITICAL MOMENT Reported 7/14/2014

    Fire Name: Carlton Complex (South Zone) Start Date: 7/14/2014 Cause: Lightning

    July 17, 2014  FEMA Region X Regional Administrator, Kenneth D. Murphy determined that the Carlton Complex FIRE THREATENED SUCH DESTRUCTION AS WOULD CONSTITUTE A MAJOR DISASTER.  Murphy approved the state’s request for federal Fire Management Assistance Grant (FMAG) on July 17, 2014 at 12:25 a.m. PDT.

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    WHAT HAPPENED BETWEEN JULY 14 AND JULY 20, 2014?

    WILDFIRE CRISIS IGNORED?  NO ACTION TAKEN? Allowed to get out of control? A PREDICTABLE/PREDICTED, MAJOR  WILDFIRE DISASTER

    There are ways to fight a fire, there are ways to make it appear you are fighting the fire but allowing the fire to run.  Sounds to me like the Carlton Complex is being allowed to run.

    July 20, 2014  Reported that,  July 20, 2014  the USFS (United States Forest Service) and DNR (Department of Natural Resources); that local fire departments and volunteer firefighters are being told to stand down and not stop the forward march of this fire.

    There are ways to fight a fire, there are ways to make it appear you are fighting the fire but allowing the fire to run.  Sounds to me like the Carlton Complex is being allowed to run.

    July 20, 2014  Reported that; People in the area have had DNR crews sit in their vehicles and refuse to help defend structures.  People in the area have been told by DNR crews that the fire is doing exactly what they want it to – burn fuel.  People in the area have been told by DNR crews that they will only help defend structures IF lives are in danger.

    There are ways to fight a fire, there are ways to make it appear you are fighting the fire but allowing the fire to run.  Sounds to me like the Carlton Complex is being allowed to run.

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    WILDFIRE CRISIS IGNORED?  NO ACTION TAKEN? Allowed to get out of control? A PREDICTABLE/PREDICTED, MAJOR  WILDFIRE DISASTER

     July 17, 2014  FEMA, FIRE THREATENED SUCH DESTRUCTION AS WOULD CONSTITUTE A MAJOR DISASTER

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    The WILDFIRE CRISIS has passed (300 homes left in the ashes)

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    WHAT IS A DISASTER? A DAMAGING OR DESTRUCTIVE EVENT AN EVENT THAT CAUSES SERIOUS LOSS, DESTRUCTION, HARDSHIP, UNHAPPINESS, OR DEATH.

    The MAJOR WILDFIRE DISASTER is now a reality.

     SO? WHEN WILL FEDERAL HELP COME TO FIRE  VICTIMS?

    How many of the 300 homeowners, could not get, or did not have fire insurance?

    So? President Barack Obama signed a federal emergency aid declaration due to the wildfires in Eastern Washington.

    So? The declaration means the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) will coordinate disaster relief efforts to help those affected by the fires, including the Carlton Complex Fire which is the largest wildfire in recorded state history.

    SO? WHEN WILL FEDERAL HELP COME TO FIRE  VICTIMS?