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    TRUTH-POLITICS AND CATASTROPHIC WILDFIRES
    American Citizens need to stand-up to the current stupidity and form a united front against the idiots who think they know what’s best for everyone else, our natural resources, our schools and our local counties.
    BURNING UP THE WEST: FEDS, GREENS CAUSE CATASTROPHIC FIRES
    Albert Einstein once said that the definition of insanity is; doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results…
    September 8, 2014 over a year ago….
    AS Capt. William E. Simpson – USMM WROTE THIS, AND AS A RESULT OF YET ANOTHER ENVIRONMENTALIST INTERVENTION,
    NUMEROUS PERFECTLY GOOD WEST COAST DAMS ARE BEING EYED FOR REMOVAL!
    OF COURSE THIS MAKES PERFECT SENSE TO THESE UPSIDE-DOWN THINKING PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THAT THE WEST COAST IS SERIOUSLY SHORT ON WATER AS IT IS, AND NEEDS MORE DAMS, NOT LESS!
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    HISTORY TRUTH AND POLITICS
    FEBRUARY 26, 2013, THE HOUSE SUBCOMMITTEE ON PUBLIC LANDS AND ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATION HELD A HEARING PRESIDED OVER BY NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN DOC HASTINGS (R-WASH.) that turns out to have been very relevant to the current burning issue of our national forest management. The subcommittee heard from a number of witnesses who testified concerning the superiority of state-managed forest lands versus the federally managed forests.
    TRUTH ON FEBRUARY 26, 2013 REP. HASTINGS noted that the much smaller forests managed by Washington State “generate an average of $168 million annually, support construction of public elementary, middle school and high schools statewide, facilities at the state’s universities, and other state facilities and institutions.
    TRUTH ON FEBRUARY 26, 2013 In comparison, THE U.S. FOREST SERVICE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MANAGING OVER 9 MILLION ACRES OF FOREST LAND contained within seven different national forests in the State of Washington, yet harvests just 2 percent of the new growth, yielding a four-year average of only $589,000 in revenue.”
    TRUTH ON FEBRUARY 26, 2013 CHAIRMAN HASTINGS noted further:
    Rather than offering all-too-familiar rhetoric of how complying with one federal law or another “costs too much,” IT’S TIME FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO ADJUST HOW IT DOES BUSINESS, and honor its own STATUTORY RESPONSIBILITIES TO MANAGE THE FORESTS, INCLUDING ALLOWING SUFFICIENT TIMBER HARVESTS, THAT BENEFIT FORESTED COUNTIES AND THEIR SCHOOLS, AS WELL AS IMPROVE DECLINING FOREST HEALTH
    AND, REDUCE THE THREAT AND SOARING COSTS OF CATASTROPHIC WILDFIRE.
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    AUG 24, 2013 HISTORY TRUTH AND POLITICS ON CATASTROPHIC WILDFIRES FIRES
    BURNING UP THE WEST: FEDS, GREENS CAUSE CATASTROPHIC FIRES …
    Burning Up the West: Feds, Greens Cause Catastrophic Fires
    www.thenewamerican.com/…/environment/…/16396-burning-up-the-we…
    AUG 24, 2013 – Burning Up the West: Feds, Greens Cause Catastrophic Fires … radical environmentalists that have thwarted all reasonable attempts at proper forest …. HASTINGS pointed out that the federal Northwest Forest Plan for California, …
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    Sept. 8, 2014 HISTORY TRUTH AND POLITICS ON CATASTROPHIC WILDFIRES FIRES
    NORTHWEST WILDFIRES AND THE ‘GREEN’ ENVIRONMENTALIST
    NORTHWEST WILDFIRES AND THE ‘GREEN …
    www.survivalbased.com › Blog › Homesteading
    Sep 8, 2014 – The EPA, BLM, U.S. Forestry and their environmentalist (‘Green’) support base claim that they want to preserve habitat and save endangered .
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    TRUTH AND POLITICS SEPT 29, 2015
    DEADLY CATASTROPHIC WILDFIRES FIRES HAVE KILLED 9 PEOPLE
    UPDATED: MONDAY, 28, SEPTEMBER 2015 WASHINGTON – OREGON – CALIFORNIA
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    Northwest Large Fire Information Summary – NWCC :: Home
    gacc.nifc.gov/nwcc/…/fire_info.aspx
    National Interagency Fire Center
    (102 KB); 2014 MEDIA WILDFIRE COVERAGE GUIDELINES FOR OREGON AND WASHINGTON • Adobe Acrobat … UPDATED: MONDAY, 28TH SEPTEMBER 2015 at 07:19:57 AM …
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    TRUTH AND POLITICS CATASTROPHIC WILDFIRES FIRES
    California wildfires burn hundreds of homes – CNN.com
    www.cnn.com/2015/09/14/us/california-wildfires/
    Sep 14, 2015 – Northern California’s Valley Fire — one of several in the state — has killed 1 and … California wildfires rage, threatening lives and homes. By Greg Botelho and Dan Simon, CNN. Updated 1:51 AM ET, Tue September 15, 2015 ….. Already, hundreds of homes have been destroyed, and some 9,000 more are …
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    2015 TRUTH AND POLITICS – CATASTROPHIC WILDFIRES FIRES
    Northwest wildfires break records for cost, size this summer
    www.kgw.com/story/news/local/2015/06/…wildfire…/71264920/
    Sep 21, 2015 – Here’s a look at the latest Pacific Northwest wildfire information, updated daily. … Chelan Fires; First Creek Fire, Okanogan-Wenatchee NF, WA, 2015 Kari Greer/USFS …. wildfires. It started in mid-August and had burned 110,422 acres by … This wildfire destroyed at least 26 homes and prompted extended …
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    The comment below on catastrophic wildfires fires was posted on September 8, 2014
    I AM POSTING THIS DEADLY CATASTROPHIC WILDFIRES FIRES – TRUTH AND POLITICS COMMENT , AGAIN ON SEPT 29, 2015,
    IN PART, BECAUSE…. NINE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KILLED IN OUT OF CONTROL WILDFIRES IN 2015
    Three firefighters killed in Washington’s Twisp Fire – CNN.com
    www.cnn.com/2015/08/20/us/wildfires-western-states/
    Aug 20, 2015 – Three firefighters have died in a wildfire in north-central Washington, the state’s governor said on his website. Four firefighters were injured, …
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    Wildfires In Northern California Kill 6 People, Destroy Nearly …
    www.huffingtonpost.com/…/california-wildfire_55ff…
    Ten active wildfires in Northern California continue to threaten a thousand more homes. AP. Posted: 09/21/2015 06:42 AM EDT … Those fires killed five people, and on Sunday authorities announced that a body was found in the ashes of a …
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    Bottom line snippets
    NORTHWEST WILDFIRES AND THE ‘GREEN’ ENVIRONMENTALIST
    Posted on September 8, 2014
    THINKING AMERICANS NEED TO STAND-UP TO THE CURRENT STUPIDITY AND FORM A UNITED FRONT AGAINST THE IDIOTS WHO THINK THEY KNOW WHAT’S BEST FOR EVERYONE ELSE, OUR NATURAL RESOURCES, OUR SCHOOLS AND OUR LOCAL COUNTIES.
    WHILE THE GOOD PEOPLE OF SISKIYOU, JACKSON, JOSEPHINE AND KLAMATH COUNTIES ARE SUFFERING FROM RECORD HIGH UN-EMPLOYMENT AS THEY WATCH HELPLESSLY AS BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF TIMBER IS TURNED TO ASH EACH YEAR.
    September 8, 2014
    AS I WRITE THIS, AND AS A RESULT OF YET ANOTHER ENVIRONMENTALIST INTERVENTION,
    NUMEROUS PERFECTLY GOOD WEST COAST DAMS ARE BEING EYED FOR REMOVAL!
    OF COURSE THIS MAKES PERFECT SENSE TO THESE UPSIDE-DOWN THINKING PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THAT THE WEST COAST IS SERIOUSLY SHORT ON WATER AS IT IS, AND NEEDS MORE DAMS, NOT LESS!
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    An unedited comment
    NORTHWEST WILDFIRES AND THE ‘GREEN’ ENVIRONMENTALIST
    Posted on September 8, 2014 by Capt. William E. Simpson

    As I write this I am vexed by the fact that nearly 100,000 thousand acres of pristine forests are burning and nearly one-million acres of forest (public forests) have burned to the ground in and around the Pacific Northwest so far this year alone. The vast majority of these forests are publically owned and managed by Federal agencies under the overview of the EPA (http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2014/07/northwest_wildfires_more_than.html).
    As a result of the flames, heat and smoke, thousands of forest animals have died and many others are suffering with severe injuries and their habitat is now long-gone. Wildfires are indiscriminate killers of endangered species, as well as numerous other species of birds and many other forest animals. It’s impossible to put an economic value on a forest full of life; but having said that; and simply from a renewable resource point of view, just the trees that have been lost had an economic (timber) value in excess of a billion dollars!
    The EPA, BLM, U.S. Forestry and their environmentalist (‘Green’) support base claim that they want to preserve habitat and save endangered species, but by way of their own actions, policies and regulations, more habitat and species have been lost over the past decades under their management policies than were lost ever before, and are being lost, every year, year after year at an alarming rate!
    Albert Einstein once said that the definition of insanity is; doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results…
    So the question is why are we losing so much forest? And the answer is very simple… the forests are being mismanaged through the continued bungling-intervention of the EPA, the ‘environmentalists’ and the ‘green’ movement into the arena of forestry.
    I know something about the subject of forests and forest management since I grew-up living, working, hunting and fishing in the area of the forests that are being consumed by these incredibly massive fires, which have become a recurring annual theme over the past two and a half decades since the intervention of the ‘environmentalist’ into the area for forest management practices. But who are these ‘environmentalists’ anyway.
    Generally speaking (and there are exceptions), the ‘environmentalists’ who have taken an interest in controlling how our public forests are used don’t live in the forests, and they view the human race (you, me our families and friends) as less valuable and relevant than a frog, fish, or a tree. They are people who seem to lack an understanding of the principals of renewable manageable resources, and who have become activists against those who would use the public forests responsibly, having had relatively little (if any) time and relevant experience living in or working in our forests themselves. Many of them are aligned with the concepts and principals of the ‘progressive’ socialist movement. If you debate them, many of these same people will quickly remind you of their ‘degrees’, etc… In other words, they are telling you that they ‘know it all’, and certainly more than you. However, anyone who has successfully managed a forest knows (as is seen in privately owned and managed forests) that reading some books in college and going on a few field trips just doesn’t cut it; a piece of paper hanging on the wall is no substitute for actual experience that is gained over many generations of successful forest management. No more so than someone trying to be a farmer with the same token experience… it just doesn’t work.
    And coincidentally, many of the books that some universities are using in their forestry programs are authored by some of the same ‘green’ environmentalist forest managers who have had a hand in developing the current failed forest management polices as applied over the past two decades; just look what’s happening! Books and lectures simply cannot teach common sense or instill the on-the-ground experience that loggers and foresters develop over the span of their lives, and through generation after generation of families working in the woods. There’s just no debating when it comes to the contrast between the current recurring disaster management model, and the past successes in forest management with sustainable and renewable timber harvests, combined with abundant wildlife habitat; without the mammoth annual fires we are experiencing today.
    Here (the link just below) is an important (precedent example) of how proper forest management, which includes selective logging and other proper management practices, saved a forest and stopped a major wildfire: http://cronkitenewsonline.com/2011/12/experts-decades-of-logging-treatments-helped-stop-wallow-fire-at-reservation/
    In the early 1970’s I worked in the woods logging and then later worked as a millwright for Southern Oregon Plywood. My brothers were also loggers as were many of my friends and countless others who lived in Southern Oregon. Like farmers who tended to their fields and cared for them year after year, and who depended upon those fields and the resulting crop production, loggers cared for the forests; they had to; forests were the lifeline for their family’s financial security.
    Loggers and their families also spent a lot of time in the woods even when they weren’t working; they hunted and fished in the forests for generations. And through that continual close contact with the forest and the wildlife, loggers gained more knowledge about the forests and the animals that lived there than many of the scientists, giving them a unique understanding of the intricate and complex interactions of the biodiversity that exists in the forests.
    As just one example of the many successful practices of loggers; dead and dying trees and underbrush (fuel for fires) were removed and eliminated during selective harvesting of the forests, and in the process of harvests, small access roads were made, which served as fire breaks and access for firefighters in the event of a fire. During that time and preceding decades, back when loggers were allowed to log public forests, fires that burned hundreds of thousands and millions of acres of timber were very rare, almost non-existent. And that was because the forests were healthy and the density of the forest and the underbrush were kept to a minimum as a result of proper management and continued annual harvests. Forests were managed as a sustainable and renewable resource, which in turn benefited the wildlife with sustainable reliable habitat and in the process, also provided recreational opportunities for the people. That former relationship between loggers and the forest was truly symbiotic.
    I can still recall the spotted owl debacle, where loggers, who for all intents and purposes were the caretakers of the forests were completely closed-out of the public forests in wholesale fashion as a result of the ‘green’ movement and environmentalists! All logging came to a complete halt as well as the associated management practices. This resulted in the shutdown of numerous West Coast lumber mills and the loss of tens of thousands of jobs in and related to the timber industry which was thereafter decimated.
    During the lobby by the ‘green movement’ and environmentalists, they argued that the rate of logging prior to the 1990’s would eliminate the old growth forests… here is a quote:
    “Environmentalists admit that saving the owls’ habitat could cost jobs. But, they argue, these jobs will vanish no matter what. For if cutting continues at its current rate of 125,000 acres a year, the old-growth forests will be gone within thirty years and the mills forced to close anyhow.” (taken from this article: http://www.scu.edu/ethics/publications/iie/v4n1/ ).
    However, as we have all witnessed, since the transition to the ‘green movement’s’ ban on logging in public forests, we are in fact actually losing many hundreds of thousands of acres of forest annually! It’s a travesty of monumental proportions… when people like these try to play God, the results are usually tragic and harm both humanity and the wildlife.
    Through the use of politics combined with bad science the ‘green movement’ and environmentalists led the way to the implementation of seriously flawed policies (regulations) and practices. The EPA and the BLM along with Federal forestry agencies and their environmentalist support base had in the early 1990’s effected a major management policy change in order to supposedly save forest habitat for a species of owl (spotted owl) that was ‘allegedly’ endangered (http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19930114&slug=1679945)
    Result: In the early 1990’s Federal forests became off-limits to loggers.
    Of course under the ‘new management’ practices of the environmentalist-led EPA, BLM and Federal Forestry Departments, the forests became (and are) very seriously overgrown leading to unhealthy stands of trees (with dead and dying trees) that were vulnerable to disease, insects and of course fire, as did the underbrush.
    Forests became so dense that if a fire started (regardless of reason)… the fire would burn extremely hot and spread very fast; it’s so simple a child can understand the concept… more fuel, more forest fire.
    And at the end of the day, many years later after Feds and the ‘green’ environmentalists kicked the loggers out of the forests and took-over, placing ‘their’ policies, regulations and management practices into place, the spotted owl population has continued to drop! This is irrefutable evidence that their interventions, policies and regulations have utterly failed to affect the owls, and in that failure, the public interest has lost even more animals and habitat to fire! Through their own actions, we now have even more animals heading towards potential extinction! What a contradiction to the claims of these people!
    Under the ‘green environmental’ forest management polices/practices (‘hands off, no logging’), forests have become so dense that when lightning starts a fire, instead of just burning-off a relatively small area before the fire is brought under control, as it was in the days of managed logging, fires today now burn entire tracks of forests amounting to hundreds of thousands of acres annually, all of which is burned to the bare ground!
    LET’S KEEP IN THE MIND THAT THIS IS NOW THE NEW ‘NORM’, and since it takes many decades for the trees to be re-established, the net result is that we are losing more and more forest annually, instead of gaining more forest area and wildlife habitat; just the opposite of what the environmentalists and the EPA preach to the public. So what’s the point?
    You don’t need to be a rocket scientist to figure this one out…. Just look at the annual total acres that are burned to the ground… It’s truly shocking that this is even allowed to continue as it has, year after year.
    So much for the ‘habitat’ of the spotted owl! And of course the habitats for dozens of other species were (are) lost as well. As of this writing, I am down in the area of the fires interviewing local people, and hundreds of thousands of acres of ‘critical habitat’ (old growth and other trees) has been converted to the ash that is falling from the sky; it’s like a nuclear winter without the radiation. Ash from the burned forests is covering entire cities!
    It’s a fact that under the continued management of the public’s forest lands by the same idiotic policies, we now have annual forest fires that devastate huge areas of forest, and in the process destroy all of the trees, as opposed to having some of the trees harvested resulting in a healthy forest as had existed in the past; forests which then were also more fire-resistant. Some may try to argue that the fires are a result of the drought. Of course that’s a ruse to deflect blame from the implementation of a seriously flawed management policy. In the prior era of managed forest harvests, we also had periods of severe drought, without the results we are seeing today. Added to which, forests which are selectively logged and managed are far more fire resistant, drought or not, and that fact is undeniable.
    So which method makes more sense? Sustainable logging as it was successfully practiced for nearly a century; or…. The current ‘green environmentalist’ methods where no logging is allowed in public forests resulting in hundreds of thousands of acres of forests regularly burning to the ground leaving nothing but ash and bare ground that is devoid of plant life and subject to severe erosion?
    The erosion of the scorched earth in-turn leads to excessive silt run-off into the streams and rivers, which covers the critical gravel beds in the streams and rivers that are required for the fish eggs of spawning fish such as Salmon. Of course the recent decline in Salmon and Steelhead runs are certainly associated to this situation. Additionally, the loss of forests results in the loss of critical shade trees in and around watersheds, which results in the warming of stream and river water temperatures; this also adversely affects the fish populations.
    The late Summer and Fall storms of the Pacific Northwest which spawn the lightning that ignite the forests also provide the downpours that wash the silt into the streams and rivers that resulted from the aftermath of the massive forest fires. And this silting of the waterways comes at the worst possible time… just as the Salmon are moving upriver to spawn in the gravel beds of the rivers and streams. However, with the overburden of silt that has washed-down off the now barren mountain sides, the gravel beds are covered in silt and are no longer viable for the spawning Salmon. This is not an optimal situation for the spawning Salmon; in fact, it can cause entire runs of Salmon to fail in their efforts to reproduce! As a fisherman myself, this situation is beyond frustrating.
    As anyone can easily see, the relative newcomer green environmentalist-scientists have it all wrong, and every year since the implementation of their fatally flawed concepts and polices we watch as more and more forests are consumed by massive fires such as those that are burning as I write this.
    If these forests were properly managed and logged as they were just 30 years ago in the Pacific Northwest, we would have trees still standing and abundant animal habitat in areas that are now burned to the dirt, and we would have renewable forest harvests as in the past providing full-time jobs for thousands of people. And as it was in the past, healthy standing forests shading the watersheds and minimized erosion, providing optimal water temperatures and low water turbidity in the streams and rivers resulting in abundant runs of fish, something that local Indian tribes greatly desire.
    Instead, thanks to the intervention of the EPA, the ‘green movement’ and environmentalists, we have less and less forest, which leads to less and less water, and less fish,
    WHILE THE GOOD PEOPLE OF SISKIYOU, JACKSON, JOSEPHINE AND KLAMATH COUNTIES ARE SUFFERING FROM RECORD HIGH UN-EMPLOYMENT AS THEY WATCH HELPLESSLY AS BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF TIMBER IS TURNED TO ASH EACH YEAR.
    And in the end, with the forests burned to the ground, if a few spotted owls survive the blaze, the spotted owl has no trees and no habitat. So what was the point?
    It just doesn’t get any dumber than this. We have the blind leading the blind.
    THINKING AMERICANS NEED TO STAND-UP TO THE CURRENT STUPIDITY AND FORM A UNITED FRONT AGAINST THE IDIOTS WHO THINK THEY KNOW WHAT’S BEST FOR EVERYONE ELSE, OUR NATURAL RESOURCES, OUR SCHOOLS AND OUR LOCAL COUNTIES.
    Some readers might be thinking; why should I care? Or, how does this affect me since I live across the U.S. from these wildfires. We all need to care and take action because this kind of mismanagement can happen anywhere environmentalists stick their noses into areas where they have less than adequate experience.
    AS I WRITE THIS, AND AS A RESULT OF YET ANOTHER ENVIRONMENTALIST INTERVENTION, NUMEROUS PERFECTLY GOOD WEST COAST DAMS ARE BEING EYED FOR REMOVAL! OF COURSE THIS MAKES PERFECT SENSE TO THESE UPSIDE-DOWN THINKING PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THAT THE WEST COAST IS SERIOUSLY SHORT ON WATER AS IT IS, AND NEEDS MORE DAMS, NOT LESS!
    Are we going to wait until these clowns let it all burn?
    Cheers! Bill
    Capt. William E. Simpson – USMM
    http://www.WilliameSimpson.com
    Twitter: https://twitter.com/NauticalPrepper
    This entry was posted in A History of WA State Wildfires, A Question of “WHAT ELSE?”, Accountable Government, FACTS are troublesome things, Kicking the Can Down the Road, Nature made Crisis Man Made Disaster, Wildfires Truth and Politics.

    CATASTROPHIC WILDFIRES FIRES – TRUTH AND POLITICS
    American Citizens need to stand-up to the current stupidity and form a united front against the idiots who think they know what’s best for everyone else, our natural resources, our schools and our local counties.
    Albert Einstein once said that the definition of insanity is; doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results…
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    HISTORY TRUTH AND POLITICS
    FEBRUARY 26, 2013, THE HOUSE SUBCOMMITTEE ON PUBLIC LANDS AND ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATION HELD A HEARING PRESIDED OVER BY NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN DOC HASTINGS (R-WASH.) that turns out to have been very relevant to the current burning issue of our national forest management. The subcommittee heard from a number of witnesses who testified concerning the superiority of state-managed forest lands versus the federally managed forests.
    TRUTH ON FEBRUARY 26, 2013 REP. HASTINGS noted that the much smaller forests managed by Washington State “generate an average of $168 million annually, support construction of public elementary, middle school and high schools statewide, facilities at the state’s universities, and other state facilities and institutions.
    TRUTH ON FEBRUARY 26, 2013 In comparison, THE U.S. FOREST SERVICE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MANAGING OVER 9 MILLION ACRES OF FOREST LAND contained within seven different national forests in the State of Washington, yet harvests just 2 percent of the new growth, yielding a four-year average of only $589,000 in revenue.”
    TRUTH ON FEBRUARY 26, 2013 CHAIRMAN HASTINGS noted further:
    Rather than offering all-too-familiar rhetoric of how complying with one federal law or another “costs too much,” IT’S TIME FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO ADJUST HOW IT DOES BUSINESS, and honor its own STATUTORY RESPONSIBILITIES TO MANAGE THE FORESTS, INCLUDING ALLOWING SUFFICIENT TIMBER HARVESTS, THAT BENEFIT FORESTED COUNTIES AND THEIR SCHOOLS, AS WELL AS IMPROVE DECLINING FOREST HEALTH
    AND, REDUCE THE THREAT AND SOARING COSTS OF CATASTROPHIC WILDFIRE.
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    AUG 24, 2013 HISTORY TRUTH AND POLITICS- CATASTROPHIC WILDFIRES FIRES
    BURNING UP THE WEST: FEDS, GREENS CAUSE CATASTROPHIC FIRES …
    Burning Up the West: Feds, Greens Cause Catastrophic Fires
    www.thenewamerican.com/…/environment/…/16396-burning-up-the-we…
    AUG 24, 2013 – Burning Up the West: Feds, Greens Cause Catastrophic Fires … radical environmentalists that have thwarted all reasonable attempts at proper forest …. HASTINGS pointed out that the federal Northwest Forest Plan for California, …
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    Sep 8, 2014 HISTORY TRUTH AND POLITICS CATASTROPHIC WILDFIRES FIRES
    NORTHWEST WILDFIRES AND THE ‘GREEN’ ENVIRONMENTALIST
    NORTHWEST WILDFIRES AND THE ‘GREEN …
    www.survivalbased.com › Blog › Homesteading
    Sep 8, 2014 – The EPA, BLM, U.S. Forestry and their environmentalist (‘Green’) support base claim that they want to preserve habitat and save endangered .
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    DEADLY CATASTROPHIC WILDFIRES FIRES HAVE KILLED 9 PEOPLE
    TRUTH AND POLITICS SEPT 28 2015
    UPDATED: MONDAY, 28,SEPTEMBER 2015 WASHINGTON – OREGON – CALIFORNIA
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    Northwest Large Fire Information Summary – NWCC :: Home
    gacc.nifc.gov/nwcc/…/fire_info.aspx
    National Interagency Fire Center
    (102 KB); 2014 MEDIA WILDFIRE COVERAGE GUIDELINES FOR OREGON AND WASHINGTON • Adobe Acrobat … UPDATED: MONDAY, 28TH SEPTEMBER 2015 at 07:19:57 AM …
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    TRUTH AND POLITICS CATASTROPHIC WILDFIRES FIRES
    California wildfires burn hundreds of homes – CNN.com
    www.cnn.com/2015/09/14/us/california-wildfires/
    Sep 14, 2015 – Northern California’s Valley Fire — one of several in the state — has killed 1 and … California wildfires rage, threatening lives and homes. By Greg Botelho and Dan Simon, CNN. Updated 1:51 AM ET, Tue September 15, 2015 ….. Already, hundreds of homes have been destroyed, and some 9,000 more are …
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    2015 TRUTH AND POLITICS – CATASTROPHIC WILDFIRES FIRES
    Northwest wildfires break records for cost, size this summer
    www.kgw.com/story/news/local/2015/06/…wildfire…/71264920/
    Sep 21, 2015 – Here’s a look at the latest Pacific Northwest wildfire information, updated daily. … Chelan Fires; First Creek Fire, Okanogan-Wenatchee NF, WA, 2015 Kari Greer/USFS …. wildfires. It started in mid-August and had burned 110,422 acres by … This wildfire destroyed at least 26 homes and prompted extended …
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    The comment below on catastrophic wildfires fires was posted on September 8, 2014
    I AM POSTING THIS DEADLY CATASTROPHIC WILDFIRES FIRES – TRUTH AND POLITICS COMMENT , AGAIN ON SEPT 28, 2015,
    BECAUSE…. NINE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KILLED IN OUT OF CONTROL WILDFIRES IN 2015
    Three firefighters killed in Washington’s Twisp Fire – CNN.com
    www.cnn.com/2015/08/20/us/wildfires-western-states/
    Aug 20, 2015 – Three firefighters have died in a wildfire in north-central Washington, the state’s governor said on his website. Four firefighters were injured, …
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    Wildfires In Northern California Kill 6 People, Destroy Nearly …
    www.huffingtonpost.com/…/california-wildfire_55ff…
    Ten active wildfires in Northern California continue to threaten a thousand more homes. AP. Posted: 09/21/2015 06:42 AM EDT … Those fires killed five people, and on Sunday authorities announced that a body was found in the ashes of a …
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    Bottom line snippets
    NORTHWEST WILDFIRES AND THE ‘GREEN’ ENVIRONMENTALIST
    THINKING AMERICANS NEED TO STAND-UP TO THE CURRENT STUPIDITY AND FORM A UNITED FRONT AGAINST THE IDIOTS WHO THINK THEY KNOW WHAT’S BEST FOR EVERYONE ELSE, OUR NATURAL RESOURCES, OUR SCHOOLS AND OUR LOCAL COUNTIES.
    WHILE THE GOOD PEOPLE OF SISKIYOU, JACKSON, JOSEPHINE AND KLAMATH COUNTIES ARE SUFFERING FROM RECORD HIGH UN-EMPLOYMENT AS THEY WATCH HELPLESSLY AS BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF TIMBER IS TURNED TO ASH EACH YEAR.
    AS I WRITE THIS, AND AS A RESULT OF YET ANOTHER ENVIRONMENTALIST INTERVENTION, NUMEROUS PERFECTLY GOOD WEST COAST DAMS ARE BEING EYED FOR REMOVAL! OF COURSE THIS MAKES PERFECT SENSE TO THESE UPSIDE-DOWN THINKING PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THAT THE WEST COAST IS SERIOUSLY SHORT ON WATER AS IT IS, AND NEEDS MORE DAMS, NOT LESS!
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    NORTHWEST WILDFIRES AND THE ‘GREEN’ ENVIRONMENTALIST (full text)
    Posted on September 8, 2014 by Capt. William E. Simpson
    As I write this I am vexed by the fact that nearly 100,000 thousand acres of pristine forests are burning and nearly one-million acres of forest (public forests) have burned to the ground in and around the Pacific Northwest so far this year alone. The vast majority of these forests are publically owned and managed by Federal agencies under the overview of the EPA (http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2014/07/northwest_wildfires_more_than.html).
    As a result of the flames, heat and smoke, thousands of forest animals have died and many others are suffering with severe injuries and their habitat is now long-gone. Wildfires are indiscriminate killers of endangered species, as well as numerous other species of birds and many other forest animals. It’s impossible to put an economic value on a forest full of life; but having said that; and simply from a renewable resource point of view, just the trees that have been lost had an economic (timber) value in excess of a billion dollars!
    The EPA, BLM, U.S. Forestry and their environmentalist (‘Green’) support base claim that they want to preserve habitat and save endangered species, but by way of their own actions, policies and regulations, more habitat and species have been lost over the past decades under their management policies than were lost ever before, and are being lost, every year, year after year at an alarming rate!
    Albert Einstein once said that the definition of insanity is; doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results…
    So the question is why are we losing so much forest? And the answer is very simple… the forests are being mismanaged through the continued bungling-intervention of the EPA, the ‘environmentalists’ and the ‘green’ movement into the arena of forestry.
    I know something about the subject of forests and forest management since I grew-up living, working, hunting and fishing in the area of the forests that are being consumed by these incredibly massive fires, which have become a recurring annual theme over the past two and a half decades since the intervention of the ‘environmentalist’ into the area for forest management practices. But who are these ‘environmentalists’ anyway.
    Generally speaking (and there are exceptions), the ‘environmentalists’ who have taken an interest in controlling how our public forests are used don’t live in the forests, and they view the human race (you, me our families and friends) as less valuable and relevant than a frog, fish, or a tree. They are people who seem to lack an understanding of the principals of renewable manageable resources, and who have become activists against those who would use the public forests responsibly, having had relatively little (if any) time and relevant experience living in or working in our forests themselves. Many of them are aligned with the concepts and principals of the ‘progressive’ socialist movement. If you debate them, many of these same people will quickly remind you of their ‘degrees’, etc… In other words, they are telling you that they ‘know it all’, and certainly more than you. However, anyone who has successfully managed a forest knows (as is seen in privately owned and managed forests) that reading some books in college and going on a few field trips just doesn’t cut it; a piece of paper hanging on the wall is no substitute for actual experience that is gained over many generations of successful forest management. No more so than someone trying to be a farmer with the same token experience… it just doesn’t work.
    And coincidentally, many of the books that some universities are using in their forestry programs are authored by some of the same ‘green’ environmentalist forest managers who have had a hand in developing the current failed forest management polices as applied over the past two decades; just look what’s happening! Books and lectures simply cannot teach common sense or instill the on-the-ground experience that loggers and foresters develop over the span of their lives, and through generation after generation of families working in the woods. There’s just no debating when it comes to the contrast between the current recurring disaster management model, and the past successes in forest management with sustainable and renewable timber harvests, combined with abundant wildlife habitat; without the mammoth annual fires we are experiencing today.
    Here (the link just below) is an important (precedent example) of how proper forest management, which includes selective logging and other proper management practices, saved a forest and stopped a major wildfire: http://cronkitenewsonline.com/2011/12/experts-decades-of-logging-treatments-helped-stop-wallow-fire-at-reservation/
    In the early 1970’s I worked in the woods logging and then later worked as a millwright for Southern Oregon Plywood. My brothers were also loggers as were many of my friends and countless others who lived in Southern Oregon. Like farmers who tended to their fields and cared for them year after year, and who depended upon those fields and the resulting crop production, loggers cared for the forests; they had to; forests were the lifeline for their family’s financial security.
    Loggers and their families also spent a lot of time in the woods even when they weren’t working; they hunted and fished in the forests for generations. And through that continual close contact with the forest and the wildlife, loggers gained more knowledge about the forests and the animals that lived there than many of the scientists, giving them a unique understanding of the intricate and complex interactions of the biodiversity that exists in the forests.
    As just one example of the many successful practices of loggers; dead and dying trees and underbrush (fuel for fires) were removed and eliminated during selective harvesting of the forests, and in the process of harvests, small access roads were made, which served as fire breaks and access for firefighters in the event of a fire. During that time and preceding decades, back when loggers were allowed to log public forests, fires that burned hundreds of thousands and millions of acres of timber were very rare, almost non-existent. And that was because the forests were healthy and the density of the forest and the underbrush were kept to a minimum as a result of proper management and continued annual harvests. Forests were managed as a sustainable and renewable resource, which in turn benefited the wildlife with sustainable reliable habitat and in the process, also provided recreational opportunities for the people. That former relationship between loggers and the forest was truly symbiotic.
    I can still recall the spotted owl debacle, where loggers, who for all intents and purposes were the caretakers of the forests were completely closed-out of the public forests in wholesale fashion as a result of the ‘green’ movement and environmentalists! All logging came to a complete halt as well as the associated management practices. This resulted in the shutdown of numerous West Coast lumber mills and the loss of tens of thousands of jobs in and related to the timber industry which was thereafter decimated.
    During the lobby by the ‘green movement’ and environmentalists, they argued that the rate of logging prior to the 1990’s would eliminate the old growth forests… here is a quote:
    “Environmentalists admit that saving the owls’ habitat could cost jobs. But, they argue, these jobs will vanish no matter what. For if cutting continues at its current rate of 125,000 acres a year, the old-growth forests will be gone within thirty years and the mills forced to close anyhow.” (taken from this article: http://www.scu.edu/ethics/publications/iie/v4n1/ ).
    However, as we have all witnessed, since the transition to the ‘green movement’s’ ban on logging in public forests, we are in fact actually losing many hundreds of thousands of acres of forest annually! It’s a travesty of monumental proportions… when people like these try to play God, the results are usually tragic and harm both humanity and the wildlife.
    Through the use of politics combined with bad science the ‘green movement’ and environmentalists led the way to the implementation of seriously flawed policies (regulations) and practices. The EPA and the BLM along with Federal forestry agencies and their environmentalist support base had in the early 1990’s effected a major management policy change in order to supposedly save forest habitat for a species of owl (spotted owl) that was ‘allegedly’ endangered (http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19930114&slug=1679945)
    Result: In the early 1990’s Federal forests became off-limits to loggers.
    Of course under the ‘new management’ practices of the environmentalist-led EPA, BLM and Federal Forestry Departments, the forests became (and are) very seriously overgrown leading to unhealthy stands of trees (with dead and dying trees) that were vulnerable to disease, insects and of course fire, as did the underbrush.
    Forests became so dense that if a fire started (regardless of reason)… the fire would burn extremely hot and spread very fast; it’s so simple a child can understand the concept… more fuel, more forest fire.
    And at the end of the day, many years later after Feds and the ‘green’ environmentalists kicked the loggers out of the forests and took-over, placing ‘their’ policies, regulations and management practices into place, the spotted owl population has continued to drop! This is irrefutable evidence that their interventions, policies and regulations have utterly failed to affect the owls, and in that failure, the public interest has lost even more animals and habitat to fire! Through their own actions, we now have even more animals heading towards potential extinction! What a contradiction to the claims of these people!
    Under the ‘green environmental’ forest management polices/practices (‘hands off, no logging’), forests have become so dense that when lightning starts a fire, instead of just burning-off a relatively small area before the fire is brought under control, as it was in the days of managed logging, fires today now burn entire tracks of forests amounting to hundreds of thousands of acres annually, all of which is burned to the bare ground!
    LET’S KEEP IN THE MIND THAT THIS IS NOW THE NEW ‘NORM’, and since it takes many decades for the trees to be re-established, the net result is that we are losing more and more forest annually, instead of gaining more forest area and wildlife habitat; just the opposite of what the environmentalists and the EPA preach to the public. So what’s the point?
    You don’t need to be a rocket scientist to figure this one out…. Just look at the annual total acres that are burned to the ground… It’s truly shocking that this is even allowed to continue as it has, year after year.
    So much for the ‘habitat’ of the spotted owl! And of course the habitats for dozens of other species were (are) lost as well. As of this writing, I am down in the area of the fires interviewing local people, and hundreds of thousands of acres of ‘critical habitat’ (old growth and other trees) has been converted to the ash that is falling from the sky; it’s like a nuclear winter without the radiation. Ash from the burned forests is covering entire cities!
    It’s a fact that under the continued management of the public’s forest lands by the same idiotic policies, we now have annual forest fires that devastate huge areas of forest, and in the process destroy all of the trees, as opposed to having some of the trees harvested resulting in a healthy forest as had existed in the past; forests which then were also more fire-resistant. Some may try to argue that the fires are a result of the drought. Of course that’s a ruse to deflect blame from the implementation of a seriously flawed management policy. In the prior era of managed forest harvests, we also had periods of severe drought, without the results we are seeing today. Added to which, forests which are selectively logged and managed are far more fire resistant, drought or not, and that fact is undeniable.
    So which method makes more sense? Sustainable logging as it was successfully practiced for nearly a century; or…. The current ‘green environmentalist’ methods where no logging is allowed in public forests resulting in hundreds of thousands of acres of forests regularly burning to the ground leaving nothing but ash and bare ground that is devoid of plant life and subject to severe erosion?
    The erosion of the scorched earth in-turn leads to excessive silt run-off into the streams and rivers, which covers the critical gravel beds in the streams and rivers that are required for the fish eggs of spawning fish such as Salmon. Of course the recent decline in Salmon and Steelhead runs are certainly associated to this situation. Additionally, the loss of forests results in the loss of critical shade trees in and around watersheds, which results in the warming of stream and river water temperatures; this also adversely affects the fish populations.
    The late Summer and Fall storms of the Pacific Northwest which spawn the lightning that ignite the forests also provide the downpours that wash the silt into the streams and rivers that resulted from the aftermath of the massive forest fires. And this silting of the waterways comes at the worst possible time… just as the Salmon are moving upriver to spawn in the gravel beds of the rivers and streams. However, with the overburden of silt that has washed-down off the now barren mountain sides, the gravel beds are covered in silt and are no longer viable for the spawning Salmon. This is not an optimal situation for the spawning Salmon; in fact, it can cause entire runs of Salmon to fail in their efforts to reproduce! As a fisherman myself, this situation is beyond frustrating.
    As anyone can easily see, the relative newcomer green environmentalist-scientists have it all wrong, and every year since the implementation of their fatally flawed concepts and polices we watch as more and more forests are consumed by massive fires such as those that are burning as I write this.
    If these forests were properly managed and logged as they were just 30 years ago in the Pacific Northwest, we would have trees still standing and abundant animal habitat in areas that are now burned to the dirt, and we would have renewable forest harvests as in the past providing full-time jobs for thousands of people. And as it was in the past, healthy standing forests shading the watersheds and minimized erosion, providing optimal water temperatures and low water turbidity in the streams and rivers resulting in abundant runs of fish, something that local Indian tribes greatly desire.
    Instead, thanks to the intervention of the EPA, the ‘green movement’ and environmentalists, we have less and less forest, which leads to less and less water, and less fish, WHILE THE GOOD PEOPLE OF SISKIYOU, JACKSON, JOSEPHINE AND KLAMATH COUNTIES ARE SUFFERING FROM RECORD HIGH UN-EMPLOYMENT AS THEY WATCH HELPLESSLY AS BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF TIMBER IS TURNED TO ASH EACH YEAR.
    And in the end, with the forests burned to the ground, if a few spotted owls survive the blaze, the spotted owl has no trees and no habitat. So what was the point?
    It just doesn’t get any dumber than this. We have the blind leading the blind.
    THINKING AMERICANS NEED TO STAND-UP TO THE CURRENT STUPIDITY AND FORM A UNITED FRONT AGAINST THE IDIOTS WHO THINK THEY KNOW WHAT’S BEST FOR EVERYONE ELSE, OUR NATURAL RESOURCES, OUR SCHOOLS AND OUR LOCAL COUNTIES.
    Some readers might be thinking; why should I care? Or, how does this affect me since I live across the U.S. from these wildfires. We all need to care and take action because this kind of mismanagement can happen anywhere environmentalists stick their noses into areas where they have less than adequate experience. AS I WRITE THIS, AND AS A RESULT OF YET ANOTHER ENVIRONMENTALIST INTERVENTION, NUMEROUS PERFECTLY GOOD WEST COAST DAMS ARE BEING EYED FOR REMOVAL! OF COURSE THIS MAKES PERFECT SENSE TO THESE UPSIDE-DOWN THINKING PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THAT THE WEST COAST IS SERIOUSLY SHORT ON WATER AS IT IS, AND NEEDS MORE DAMS, NOT LESS!
    Are we going to wait until these clowns let it all burn?
    Cheers! Bill
    Capt. William E. Simpson – USMM
    http://www.WilliameSimpson.com
    Twitter: https://twitter.com/NauticalPrepper


  • WOW Opposition to Wild Olympics

    WOW Opposition to Wild Olympics

    Yesterday, Ross and I, (two 74 year old senior citizens) put up (12) “STOP WILD OLYMPICS” signs on highway 101.

    Yes, it is that important….

    TO THWART THE GOVERNMENTS  GRABBING OF MORE OF OUR PUBLIC AND PRIVATE LAND FOR MORE WILD WILDERNESS LAND AND RIVERS IN THE OLYMPIC NATIONAL PARK

    Have you seen the signs? Do you know what is behind them? Why the opposition to MORE Wild Olympics?

    The signs read  Stop Wild Olympics $900 Million Land Grab

    Do you know what is behind them? (more info at the bottom)

    Most people have no knowledge of these vast,  LAND AND POWER GRAB encroachments to take our property and property rights on the Olympic Peninsula, and it is time that the truth be known

    Why the opposition to MORE Wild?

    FEAR…. FEAR OF WHAT THE GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO DO AMERICAN CITIZENS.

    2015  MORE WILD OLYMPICS PLUS MORE WILDERNESS,  CREATES MORE FEAR, MORE ECONOMIC STARVATION, MORE POVERTY, MORE UNEMPLOYMENT, MORE FEAR OF GRABBING OF  MORE PRIVATE PROPERTY THAT HAS BEEN IN FAMILIES FOR GENERATIONS BY IMMINENT DOMAIN

    Do you know who is behind this?

    Our own federal elected representatives.

    Grabbing our, public and private land, grabbing our economy,  NO logging, NO mining, NO commercial development or NO motorized vehicle access, grabbing our access to our PUBLIC USE AND ENJOYMENT  on 126,000 acres of public land  It would also designate 19 rivers on the OLYMPIC PENINSULA  as wild and scenic.

    This land grabbing will never STOP  unless we the people, property owners and tax payers start fighting back to STOP THE LAND GRAB and the taking of all our property on the Olympic Peninsula.

    We have a bloated bureaucracy providing nothing, living off of our tax dollars and still grabbing, to take MORE of our public and private land from us, with our more of our own tax dollars.

    How can a Federal Government of ours pay money MORE MONEY for things like this when our government, the  UNITED STATES NATIONAL DEBT IS

     $18,161,486,020,506.42 TRILLION DOLLARS.?

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    WHO KNEW? DID YOU KNOW?

    WILDERNESS AREAS ARE WITHDRAWN FROM THE PUBLIC LAND LAWS and the mining and mineral leasing laws. (read more, Wilderness: Legislation and Issues in the 113th Congress)

    U.S. Code: Title 43 – PUBLIC LANDS | US Law | LII / Legal …

    www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/43

    Legal Information Institute

    CHAPTER 1—BUREAU OF LAND MANAGEMENT (§§ 1–25_to_25b) · CHAPTER … CHAPTER 13—FEDERAL LANDS INCLUDED IN STATE IRRIGATION …

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    WILDERNESS AREAS ARE WITHDRAWN FROM THE PUBLIC LAND LAWS

     The complete 42 chapters of Public Land laws are listed at the bottom.

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    950,000 ACRES OF WILD WILDERNESS DESIGNATION, of the OLYMPIC NATIONAL PARKS  million acres of AMERICAN public land has already been grabbed  by CONGRESS

    ALREADY  CONTROLLED AND PROTECTED, OFF LIMITS, UNTRAMMELED,  “WILD OLYMPICS” WILDERNESS  BY THE UNITED NATIONS.

    KILMER AND MURRAY WANT TO GRAB MORE “WILD OLYMPICS” WILDERNESS

    The Olympic Peninsula ECONOMY DOES NOT GROW ON WILDERNESS

    The Olympic Peninsula ECONOMY GROWS ON TREES

    The trees that grow in “Wild Olympics’ Wilderness don’t WORK for the ECONOMY

    And, they don’t WORK for Olympic Peninsula WORKING FAMILIES

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    Olympic Peninsula JOBS DON’T GROW IN THE “WILD OLYMPICS WILDERNESS”

    Olympic Peninsula  OUR JOBS GROW ON TREES

    Olympic Peninsula  OUR ECONOMY GROWS ON TREES

    Olympic Peninsula  OUR MONEY GROWS ON TREES

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    The  WILD OLYMPICS IS A FEDERAL LAND GRAB WILL THAT SHALL CLOSE roads and cut off recreational access to our public lands.  

    Most areas protected as or proposed for WILDERNESS are undeveloped, with few (if any) signs of human activity, such as ROADS and structures

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    Behind My Back | The Roadless Crew Cantwell and Inslee

    The Wilderness  designation prohibits commercial  activities, motorized access, and human infrastructure from wilderness area. The WILDERNESS authority is permanent, with limited access permitted for specific areas, uses, and times, or with the authority to operate and maintain pre-existing infrastructure.

    The potential losses (opportunity costs) for some resources, such as timber harvesting, can be determined with relative accuracy

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    The “CONS” of Wilderness Designations

    Opponents of wilderness generally seek to retain development options for federal lands. The potential use of lands and resources can provide economic opportunities in extracting and developing the resources, especially in the relatively rural communities in and around the federal lands. The principal cost of a wilderness designation is the lost opportunity for economic activity resulting from resource extraction and development.

    While some economic activities, such as grazing ( the Bundy Ranch?) and outfitting, are allowed to continue within wilderness areas, many are prohibited. The potential losses (opportunity costs) for some resources, such as timber harvesting, can be determined with relative accuracy, since the quality and quantity of the resource can be measured.

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     IF WE “THE PEOPLE” DON’T WANT CONGRESS TO GRAB MORE PUBLIC LAND.…

    “WE THE PEOPLE” SHOULD MAKE IT AS DIFFICULT AS POSSIBLE…

    “WE THE PEOPLE”  SHOULD MAKE EVERY ATTEMPT TO MAKE MORE WILD OLYMPICS IMPOSSIBLE….

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    WILDERNESS AREAS ARE WITHDRAWN FROM THE PUBLIC LAND LAWS

     The complete 42 chapters

    U.S. Code: Title 43 – PUBLIC LANDS

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    I received this comment on the STOP WILD SIGNS

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    The 900 million $ land grab sign is not very applicable since the WOC dropped the private property expansion of ONP.  Only an observation on my part

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    My response was…

    Any $$$ amount on the WILD OLYMPICS LAND GRABBING is just a drop in the bucket…

    The cumulative $$$ total of the land grabs that increased the park to nearly a million acres?

    The cumulative $$$ total of the loss of income to the forest industry?

    The cumulative $$$ total of the loss of income mill closures?

    The potential losses (opportunity costs) for some resources, such as timber harvesting, can be determined with relative accuracy

    There is no reference to time frame or origin of the $$$ amount on the signs.

    It is just a nice round number that grabs  attention.

    For all we know?? it could be BILLIONS of dollars???

    Thank you for caring enough to observe and respond.

     


  • WOW “Stop Wild Olympic” Signs

    WOW “Stop Wild Olympic” Signs

    WHAT THE LOOK LIKE, WHAT THEY SAY  

    OPEN THE ATTACHMENT (email images)

    AND WHERE YOU CAN ORDER THEM

    Brooke and Muddy… muddyshoes@olynet.com

    www.wildolympicsscam.com

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    I ORDERED 20 “STOP WILD SIGNS’

    I have one in my front yard on 5th St. in PA WA and one across the street.

    Tomorrow, Ross and I will put the rest of the signs on highway 101 and highway 112 West of Port Angeles in Clallam County WA.

    WILDERNESS  is not just a local issue.

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    or for other images WHAT THE LOOK LIKE, WHAT THEY SAY  

     as posted on this website go to

    Images for STOP WILD OLYMPICS SIGN Report images

    Stop Wild Olympics Propaganda @VisitorCenter in Amanda Park, WA …

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    MORE WILDERNESS  is not just a local issue.

    MORE WILDERNESS IS A FEDERAL ISSUE

    Behind My Back | Public Access to Public land

    www.behindmyback.org/category/public-access-to-public-land/

    Jun 8, 2015 – ALL NATIONAL PARK WILDERNESS LAND DEPRIVES OVER 300 MILLION … www.behindmyback.org/2014/01/27/part-1-wow-a-war-on-wild/ … CONGRESS HAS ABUSED US, BY DENYING “WE THE PEOPLE” OUR …. George C. Rains Sr. my Dad, as a private property owner of 3000 acres of timberland …

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    About Brooke and Muddy

    (I love these two “WILD” fighters)

    WOW, EFFECTED,VESTED PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNING AMERICAN CITIZENS,

    FIGHTING BACK WITH HANDMADE “STOP WILD OLYMPICS” SIGNS

    Brooke and Muddy… muddyshoes@olynet.com

    www.wildolympicsscam.com

    THIS WEBSITE PROVIDES A HISTORICALLY DOCUMENTED INTRODUCTION TO “WILD”

    The website is now being  upgraded

    scamnews scamnews@wildolympicsscam.com

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    WHO NOTICED THOSE 2012 HANDMADE “STOP WILD OLYMPICS” SIGNS?

    WIKIPEDIA NOTICED…..

    Opposition of Wild Olympics Proposal

    Wild Olympics – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_Olympics

    Wikipedia

    HANDMADE “STOP WILD OLYMPICS” SIGNS can be seen in the Aberdeen area and on the peninsula, expressing displeasure, and an opposition group, Working Wild …

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    Images for STOP WILD OLYMPICS SIGN Report images

    Stop Wild Olympics Propaganda @VisitorCenter in Amanda Park, WA …

    www.youtube.com2592 × 1936Search by image

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    READ ALL ABOUT THE 2012 OPPOSITION TO THE WILD OLYMPICS CAMPAIGN

    Editorial by Karl Spees (also appeared in the 5/23/12 issue of Peninsula Daily News). Posted June 4, 2012. Seattle Times “gossip columnist” Danny Westneat’s …

    snippet

    2012 The following organizations have formally stated their opposition to it: the Port of Port Angeles, Port Angeles Business Association, Clallam County Republican Party led by Dick Pilling, the ranges, North Olympic Timber Action Committee, Friends of Lake Crescent, Crescent Water District and Clallam County chapter of Citizens Alliance for Property Rights and NOTAC.

    The same bottom line May 23, 2012,  July 19, 2015

    The Wild Olympics plan is an incremental taking of public and private lands and rivers by artificially designating them as “wild and scenic rivers” or “wilderness.” Thus there will be no roads and no chainsaws – therefore almost no access.

    WE NEED FOREST MANAGEMENT TO PREVENT CATASTROPHIC WILDFIRES AND TIMBER HARVEST TO SUPPORT OUR SCHOOLS, ROADS AND GOVERNMENT.

    read the complete text of this 1400 word “WILD” comment on behindmyback.org

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    Editorial: Toss Wild Olympics plan completely | Citizen …

    citizenreviewonline.org/editorial-toss-wild-olympics-plan-completely/

    Editorial by Karl Spees (also appeared in the 5/23/12 issue of Peninsula Daily News). Posted June 4, 2012. Seattle Times “gossip columnist” Danny Westneat’s …

    SEATTLE TIMES “gossip columnist” Danny Westneat’s column “Wild Olympics … We rubes, WHO ABSOLUTELY OPPOSE THE WILD OLYMPICS PLAN, don’t apologize for our …

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    5/23/12 PDN ARTICLE ON WILD OLYMPICS

    A re-print of an article by Dr. Karl Spees, Port Angeles in the Peninsula Daily News, May 23, 2012 “Toss Wild Olympics Plan Completely”

    Seattle Times “gossip columnist” Danny Westneat’s column “Wild Olympics Perception Prevails” (PDN, May 11) shed more heat than light on the subject of the Wild Olympics plan.

    His column portrays all citizens who oppose the plan as rubes.

    On May 10, this rube attended a Wild Olympics forum in Grays Harbor County where a show of hands of the 250 in attendance revealed the rubes outnumbered the elites by a margin of three to one.

    Those who support the Wild Olympics proposal feel man is destroying the Earth and only by turning the North Olympic Peninsula into a big wildlife park devoid of humans can they help save the planet.

    We rubes, who absolutely oppose the Wild Olympics plan, don’t apologize for our existence and would like to continue calling the Peninsula home.”Bring-home-the-bacon” Congressman Norm Dicks would like to add another scalp to his legacy along with the destruction of the Elwha lakes and the removals of the (too much power producing) Elwha dams. All powerful Congressman Dicks won’t be joining his D.C. Beltway cronies next year. In my opinion, Dicks got his bacon fried when a pesky citizen, Doug Cloud, filed a Freedom on Information request involving FBI files from the lobbyist PMA Group. This, I and others believe, finally caused Dicks to step aside for having his hand in the cookie jar one too many times.

    As to the concession by Wild Olympics’ supporters who dropped the “willing-buyer, willing-seller provision,” this happened because they were trying to appease us. But instead they may have made it worse. They threw “that bunny back into the briar patch.”

    Despite the strong and repeated denials by Sarah Crum (Dicks’ Girl Friday in Grays Harbor ounty), multiple bridges, culverts and roads in Olympic National Park’s buffer zones are being removed using public funds while other forest and public roads in the buffer zones are neglected for lack of funding. When the government takes out roads and the citizens lose access to their private property, homes, and timber stands, they suddenly become “willing sellers.” The bureaucrats have made a huge concession to those rascally rubes and dropped the

    “willing-buyer, willing-seller” provision. Now instead of paying pennies on the dollar to property owners who have lost their access, the government won’t pay them anything.

    This is like the Army recruit getting his first government haircut. The barber asks him if he wants to keep his hair. After his GI buzz cut, the barber sweeps the floor and gives him a bag full of air.

    Few know that Olympic National Park is a UN biosphere. My belief, and that of others, is that the United Nations wants to totally exclude all human activities from the biosphere and severely limit human activity in the buffers.

    The Wild Olympics plan is an incremental taking of public and private lands and rivers by artificially designating them as “wild and scenic rivers” or “wilderness.” Thus there will be no roads and no chainsaws – therefore almost no access.

    In the PDN there have been about a dozen quarter-page ADS BY OUT-OF-TOWN ORGANIZATIONS. One of the ads’ themes is there is broad-based support for Wild Olympics. This is Orwellian, which is a polite way to say it’s a lie. The opposite is true. The reality is there is solid local opposition to the Wild Olympics plan.

    The following organizations have formally stated their opposition to it: the Port of Port Angeles, Port Angeles Business Association, Clallam County Republican Party led by Dick Pilling, the ranges, North Olympic Timber Action Committee, Friends of Lake Crescent, Crescent Water District and Clallam County chapter of Citizens Alliance for Property Rights.

    Norm Schaaf, vice president of timberlands and administrator for Merrill & Ring, indicated that the private timber companies are willing to accept the compromised plan. For us rubes, we see that as the private timber companies “throwing everyone else to the crocodiles, hoping that they will be eaten last.”

    We all want clean air and water. I and others believe that our air, water and land are the cleanest they have been in 40 years. We currently have multiple layers of protection. We are in a severe economic crisis, not an environmental crisis. Only prosperous countries can afford to protect the environment.

    We are broke, and the Wild Olympics plan will make the problem worse.

    All wealth comes from beneficial use of the land and water resources.

    All human activity have a degree of impact, some of it good.

    We must balance preservation with conservation and stewardship.

    We already have almost a million acres of land set aside in Olympic National Park.

    Timber and brush grow like weeds on the Peninsula. WE NEED FOREST MANAGEMENT TO PREVENT CATASTROPHIC WILDFIRES AND TIMBER HARVEST TO SUPPORT OUR SCHOOLS, ROADS AND GOVERNMENT.

     I would urge everyone to face the harsh realities of our current situation, oppose the Wild Olympic Plan and embrace the status of adulthood, even if the do-gooders call us rubes.

    Karl Spees, Port Angeles

    2012 Dr. Spees is the president of the Clallam County chapter of Citizens Alliance for Property Right


  • A WA D.C. Response to More Wild?

    A WA D.C.Response to More Wild?

    Is this Sen. Cantwell’s  rationalizations and justification for more “WILD”?

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    From: Office of Senator Maria Cantwell

    To: phew@wavecable.com

    Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 1:09 PM

    As usual the politically correct, unusually prompt, written response does not include problematic words.

    Like …. DESIGNATE MORE WILD AND EXPANDING MORE WILD OLYMPICS OR WILDERNESS

    (I did not  ask about or mention electronic warfare testing in Washington)

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    Some government, somebody asked me to TELL CONGRESS WHAT I THINK ABOUT H.R. 2665 To designate and expand wilderness areas in Olympic National Forest in the State of WA.

     So I DID. I was the first responder. My POPVOX PROFILE IS Constituent 413580

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    Nobody asked me to  TELL CONGRESS WHAT I THINK ABOUT  S.1510  to designate and expand wilderness areas in Olympic National Forest in the State of Washington, and to designate certain rivers in Olympic National Forest and Olympic National Park as wild and…

    BUT, I did it anyway.. I sent it to

    —– Original Message —–

    From: pearl hewett

    To: Bryant Hopkins

    Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 8:54 AM

    Subject: I oppose S.1510 More Wilderness

    Please disseminate  my comment to the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee …

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     Senator Cantwell’s  prompt response on what?

    Hmmm… It appears that my  “WILD” comments have put some WA D.C, WA State elected representatives on the defensive, scrambling to rationalize and justify the MORE “WILD” legislation that Sen. Murray and Rep. Kilmer  KEEP introducing, and KEEP introducing, and Sen. Cantwell KEEPS supporting.

    And in FACT… Sen. Cantwell actually brags, in her email to me, below about introducing THE ROADLESS AREA CONSERVATION ACT TO PROTECT 58.5 MILLION ACRES INCLUDING TWO MILLION ACRES IN WASHINGTON STATE.

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    MY UPDATED MESSAGE’S TO CONGRESS…

    I opposed S.1510  AND I opposed H.R. 2665 To designate and expand wilderness areas in Olympic National Forest in the State of Washington, and to designate certain rivers in Olympic National Forest and Olympic National Park as wild and scenic rivers, and for other purposes. because…

    You were elected and sent to WA D.C. for other purposes, TO FIX THE BROKEN ECONOMY AND CREATE JOBS. Please focus on that task.

    TAKING MORE PACIFIC NORTHWEST PUBLIC FOREST LAND, PUBLIC NATURAL RESOURCES, FOR “WILD OLYMPIC” WILDERNESS DOES NOT GROW THE ECONOMY OR JOBS IN THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST.

    YOU and Congress can’t afford to take care of the National Wild, Wilderness lands that YOU  have already designated.

     In 2014,there were 757 WILDERNESS AREAS OF NATIONAL PUBLIC PARK PUBLIC LAND.

     In 2014 the “WILD” WILDERNESS AREAS TOTALED 109,511,966 ACRES IN 44 STATES.

    YOU started as 9,100,00 million acres of designated wilderness, in 2014 it had grown to an astounding 109,511,966 million acres of designated wilderness.

    CONGRESS, AS OUR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES, PLEASE FOCUS ON THE ECONOMIC PRIORITIES AND LEGISLATE IN AND FOR THE BEST ECONOMIC INTEREST OF THE  318,881,992 MILLION PEOPLE THAT LIVE  IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

    WE NEED MORE JOBS NOT MORE WILDING.

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    Just saying… Just asking?

    Was this really a WA D.C. Response to More Wild?

    No documentation.. we must rely strictly upon…

    The circumstantial, coincidental evidence of the “timing” of Sen Cantwell’s  prompt response.

    I sent my Senate comment to WA D.C.

    Tuesday, June 09, 2015 8:54 AM

    SUBJECT: I OPPOSE S.1510 MORE WILDERNESS

    (I did not ask about or mention electronic warfare testing in Washington)

    Hmmm… Four hours and fifteen minutes later…

    —– Original Message —–

    From: Office of Senator Maria Cantwell

    To: phew@wavecable.com

    Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 1:09 PM

    Subject: From the Office of Senator Cantwell

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     Snippets that matter? TO “WE THE PEOPLE”? (full text of Sen. Cantwell’s letter below)

     Since being elected to the Senate, I have committed myself to protecting our nation’s environment and natural resources.

    I have worked tirelessly to preserve our amazing natural treasures while boosting Washington’s recreation and tourism industries at the same time.

    AND,  INTRODUCED THE ROADLESS AREA CONSERVATION ACT TO PROTECT 58.5 MILLION ACRES OF OUR NATION’S LAST REMAINING PRISTINE FOREST LANDS, INCLUDING TWO MILLION ACRES IN WASHINGTON STATE.

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    —– Original Message —–

    From: Office of Senator Maria Cantwell

    To: phew@wavecable.com

    Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 1:09 PM

    Subject: From the Office of Senator Cantwell

    Dear Ms. Hewett,

    Thank you for contacting me regarding proposed electronic warfare testing in Washington. I appreciate hearing from you on this important issue.

    On October 2, 2014, the U.S. Navy announced that it would conduct electronic warfare training over Navy property at Pacific Beach, Washington, as well as over U.S. Forest Service lands on the Olympic Peninsula. The planned training missions will involve fixed electronic emitters on Pacific Beach, as well as occasional use of mobile electronic emitter vans on U.S. Forest Service land. As you are likely aware, the Navy currently conducts in-flight exercises in these areas with aircraft based at Naval Air Station Whidbey Island.

    I appreciate the concerns expressed by constituents about impacts of noise caused by flight training at NAS Whidbey and about how the placement of these electronic emitters may increase the number of training flights. Please be assured that I take these concerns very seriously, and will continue to monitor further developments in this matter. I continue to urge the Navy to engage in open dialogue with concerned citizens, and I will continue to work to promote transparency regarding the Navy’s training missions in the Pacific Northwest.

    Since being elected to the Senate, I have committed myself to protecting our nation’s environment and natural resources while ensuring Americans continue to have access to the outdoor recreational opportunities that they love.

    I believe we have a responsibility to protect our state and nation’s rugged natural beauty and pristine and historic lands for the collective benefit of current and future generations. From expanding Mt. Rainier National Park, to creating the Lewis and Clark National Historical Park at the mouth of the Columbia River, I have worked tirelessly to preserve our amazing natural treasures while boosting Washington’s recreation and tourism industries at the same time. I have also opposed making the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge available for oil exploration, and introduced the Roadless Area Conservation Act to protect 58.5 million acres of our nation’s last remaining pristine forestlands, including two million acres in Washington State.

    I will keep your thoughts in mind should I have the opportunity to consider legislation affecting the Navy’s planned training missions in the U.S. Senate.

    Thank you again for contacting me to share your thoughts on this matter. Please do not hesitate to contact me in the future if I can be of further assistance.

    Sincerely,
    Maria Cantwell
    United States Senator

    For future correspondence with my office, please visit my website at
    http://cantwell.senate.gov/contact/

    ACKNOWLEDGED FROM  BRYANT  RECEIVING MY  EMAIL

     —– Original Message —–

    From: Hopkins, Bryant (Energy)

    To: pearl hewett

    Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 9:01 AM

    Subject: RE: I oppose S.1510 More Wilderness

     

    I will pass this information on the committee. Thank you for your concern.

    Bryant

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    FULL TEXT OF MY EMAIL TO BRYANT

    —– Original Message —–

    From: pearl hewett

    To: Bryant Hopkins

    Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 8:54 AM

    Subject: I oppose S.1510 More Wilderness

    Please disseminate  my comment to the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee …

    I oppose S.1510  to designate and expand wilderness areas in Olympic National Forest in the State of Washington, and to designate certain rivers in Olympic National Forest and Olympic National Park as wild and…

    Please disseminate  my comment to the

    Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee …

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    As elected representatives you were  sent to WA D.C., to fix the broken economy and create jobs. Please focus on that task.

    TAKING PACIFIC NORTHWEST PUBLIC FOREST LAND, PUBLIC NATURAL RESOURCES, FOR “WILD OLYMPIC” WILDERNESS DOES NOT GROW THE ECONOMY OR JOBS IN THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST.

    Congress can’t afford to take care of the National Wild, Wilderness Parks that  have been designated.  In 2014,there were 757 WILDERNESS AREAS OF NATIONAL PUBLIC PARK. In 2014 the “Wild” wilderness areas TOTALED 109,511,966 ACRES IN 44 STATES.

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    MONEY GROWS ON TREES IN THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST

    AS MONEY COMES FROM PAPER, AND PAPER IS FROM TREES,

    MONEY GROWS ON TREES IN THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST

    THE MEANING OF THE STATEMENT DOES HAVE SOME USE,

    TREES GROW THE ECONOMY AND JOBS  IN  THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST

    MONEY DOES GROW ON TREES IN THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST.

    AND IT IS ALWAYS A GOOD STATEMENT TO “LIVE” BY IN THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST.

    IT DOES HAVE SOME USE FOR A VOTING CITIZENS COMMENT to  the Senate committee Energy and Natural Resources  AND the House committee on  Natural Resources.

    AS OUR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES, PLEASE FOCUS ON THE ECONOMIC PRIORITIES AND LEGISLATE IN AND FOR THE CITIZENS BEST ECONOMIC INTEREST.

    Pearl Rains Hewett

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    Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee …

    https://www.congress.gov/committee/senateenergy-and-naturalresource

    Publications on FDsys for Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee … areas in Olympic National Forest in the State of Washington, and to designate certain …. A bill to amend title 54, United States Code, to limit the authority to reserve …

    S.1510 — 114th Congress (2015-2016)

    A bill to

    Sponsor: Sen. Murray, Patty [D-WA] (Introduced 06/04/2015)
    Committees: Senate – Energy and Natural Resources
    Latest Action: 06/04/2015 Read twice and referred to the Committee on Energy and Natural Resources.

    I oppose S.1510  to designate and expand wilderness areas in Olympic National Forest in the State of Washington, and to designate certain rivers in Olympic National Forest and Olympic National Park as wild and…

    Please disseminate  my comment to the

    Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee …

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    My thank you email to Bryant

    From: pearl hewett [mailto:phew@wavecable.com]
    Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 11:55 AM
    To: Hopkins, Bryant (Energy)
    Subject: I oppose S.1510 More Wilderness

    Bryant,

    Thank you for taking my June 9, 2015 phone call.