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  • UK Independence Day June 23, 2016

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    ​Donald J. Trump Statement Regarding British Referendum on E.U. Membership | Donald J Trump for President

    Donald Trump8 hours ago – June 24, 2016 –
     The people of the United Kingdom have exercised the sacred right of all free peoples. They have declared their independence from the European Union and have voted to reassert control over their own politics, borders and economy. A Trump Administration pledges to strengthen our ties with a free and independent Britain, deepening our bonds in commerce, culture and mutual defense. The whole world is more peaceful and stable when our two countries – and our two peoples – are united together, as they will be under a Trump Administration.

    Come November, the American people will have the chance to re-declare their independence. Americans will have a chance to vote for trade, immigration and foreign policies that put our citizens first. They will have the chance to reject today’s rule by the global elite, and to embrace real change that delivers a government of, by and for the people. I hope America is watching, it will soon be time to believe in America again.

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    UK Independence Day June 23, 2016

    The populist vote is the ONLY reason the UK got out of the EU

    What was the Silent Majority thinking?

    UK out of the EU 7 Good Reasons

    Brexit: the 7 most important arguments for Britain to leave the EU

    Vox2 hours ago Updated by on June 24, 2016, 9:10 a.m. ET

    Yesterday, Britain voted to leave the European Union— an option dubbed “Brexit. … the International Monetary Fund, and the World Bank. … and many economists believe the euro was the primary culprit.

    Argument 1: The EU threatens British sovereignty

    Argument 2: The EU is strangling the UK in burdensome regulations

    Argument 3: The EU entrenches corporate interests and prevents radical reforms

    Argument 4: The EU was a good idea, but the euro is a disaster

    Argument 5: The EU allows too many immigrants

    Argument 6: The UK could have a more rational immigration system outside the EU

    Argument 7: The UK could keep the money it currently sends to the EU

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    Argument 1: The EU threatens British sovereignty

    This is probably the most common argument among intellectual-minded people on the British right, expressed by Conservative politicians such as former London Mayor Boris Johnson and Justice Minister Michael Gove.

    Over the past few decades, a series of EU treaties have shifted a growing amount of power from individual member states to the central EU bureaucracy in Brussels. On subjects where the EU has been granted authority — like competition policy, agriculture, and copyright and patent law — EU rules override national laws.

    Euroskeptics emphasize that the EU’s executive branch, called the European Commission, isn’t directly accountable to voters in Britain or anyone else. British leaders have some influence on the selection of the European Commission’s members every five years. But once the body has been chosen, none of its members are accountable to the British government or to Britons’ elected representatives in the European Parliament.

    Argument 2: The EU is strangling the UK in burdensome regulations

    Critics like Johnson say the EU’s regulations have become increasingly onerous:

    Sometimes these EU rules sound simply ludicrous, like the rule that you can’t recycle a teabag, or that children under eight cannot blow up balloons, or the limits on the power of vacuum cleaners. Sometimes they can be truly infuriating – like the time I discovered, in 2013, that there was nothing we could do to bring in better-designed cab windows for trucks, to stop cyclists being crushed. It had to be done at a European level, and the French were opposed.

    Many British conservatives look at the European bureaucracy in Brussels the same way American conservatives view the Washington bureaucracy. Gove has argued that EU regulations cost the British economy “£600 million every week” ($880 million). (Though this figure is disputed.)

    Argument 3: The EU entrenches corporate interests and prevents radical reforms

    Labour In Rally For The Last Time In The EU Referendum Campaign Photo by Matt Cardy/Getty Images
    Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn has been a reluctant supporter of the “remain” campaign.

    This is the mirror image of the previous two arguments. Whereas many British conservatives see the EU as imposing left-wing, big-government policies on Britain, some on the British left see things the other way around: that the EU’s antidemocratic structure gives too much power to corporate elites and prevents the British left from making significant gains.

    “The EU is anti-democratic and beyond reform,” said Enrico Tortolano, campaign director for Trade Unionists against the EU, in an interview with Quartz. The EU “provides the most hospitable ecosystem in the developed world for rentier monopoly corporations, tax-dodging elites and organized crime,” writes British journalist Paul Mason.

    This left-wing critique of the EU is part of a broader critique of elite institutions more generally, including the World Trade Organization, the International Monetary Fund, and the World Bank. Brexit supporters on the left would have a lot in common with Americans who are against trade deals like the Trans-Pacific Partnership.

    Argument 4: The EU was a good idea, but the euro is a disaster

    The United Kingdom has had a significant faction of euroskeptics ever since it joined the EU in 1973. But until recently, this was a minority position.

    “There are nearly 130 Conservative MPs who have declared for leaving the EU,” economist Andrew Lilico told me last week. “If you went back 10 years, you would have struggled to find more than 20 who even in private would have supported leaving the EU.”

    So what changed their minds? The global recession that began in 2008 was bad around the world, but it was much worse in countries that had adopted Europe’s common currency, the euro. The unemployment rate shot up above 20 percent in countries like Greece and Spain, triggering a massive debt crisis. Seven years after the recession began, Spain and Greece are still suffering from unemployment rates above 20 percent, and many economists believe the euro was the primary culprit.

    Luckily, the UK chose not to join the common currency, so there’s little danger of the euro directly cratering the British economy. But the euro’s dismal performance still provides extra ammunition to Brexit supporters.

    Many economists believe that deeper fiscal and political integration will be needed for the eurozone to work properly. Europe needs a common welfare and tax system so that countries facing particularly severe downturns — like Greece and Spain — can get extra help from the center.

    But that makes Britain’s continued inclusion in the EU awkward. Britain is unlikely to go along with deeper fiscal integration, but it would also be unwieldy to create a set of new, parallel eurozone-specific institutions that excluded the UK.

    So, the argument goes, it might be better for everyone if the UK got out of the EU, clearing the path for the rest of the EU to evolve more quickly into a unified European state.

    Argument 5: The EU allows too many immigrants

    Nigel Farage Gives His Final Speech Of The EU Referendum Campaign Photo by Dan Kitwood/Getty Images
    Nigel Farage, leader of the far-right United Kingdom Independence Party, has focused his campaign for Brexit on limiting immigration.

    The intellectual case for Brexit is mostly focused on economics, but the emotional case for Brexit is heavily influenced by immigration. EU law guarantees that citizens of one EU country have the right to travel, live, and take jobs in other EU countries.

    British people have increasingly felt the impact of this rule since the 2008 financial crisis. The eurozone has struggled economically, and workers from eurozone countries such as Ireland, Italy, and Lithuania (as well as EU countries like Poland and Romania that have not yet joined the common currency) have flocked to the UK in search of work.

    “In recent years, hundreds of thousands of Eastern Europeans have come to Britain to do a job,” British journalist and Brexit supporter Douglas Murray told me last week. This, he argues, has “undercut the native working population.”

    The UK absorbed 333,000 new people, on net, in 2015. That’s a significant number for a country Britain’s size, though according to the CIA the UK still received slightly fewer net migrants, relative to population, than the United States in 2015.

    Immigration has become a highly politicized issue in Britain, as it has in the United States and many other places over the past few years. Anti-immigration campaigners like Nigel Farage, the leader of the far-right UK Independence Party, have argued that the flood of immigrants from Southern and Eastern Europe has depressed the wages of native-born British workers. Some voters are also concerned about immigrants using scarce public services.

    “One of the causes for the great public disgruntlement,” Murray argues, is that Labour governments at the turn of the century “massively understated the numbers [of immigrants] to be expected,” creating public distrust of current pledges to keep migration under control.

    Argument 6: The UK could have a more rational immigration system outside the EU

    While many Brexit supporters simply want to reduce the amount of immigration overall, others argue that the UK could have a more sensible immigration system if it didn’t have the straitjacket of the EU.

    EU rules require the UK to admit all EU citizens who wants to move to Britain, whether or not they have good job prospects or English skills.

    “Leave” advocates argue that the UK should be focused on admitting immigrants who will bring valuable skills to the country and integrate well into British culture. They mention the point-based immigration systems of Canada and Australia, which award potential migrants points based on factors like their language and job skills, education, and age. That, “leave” advocates argue, would allow the UK to admit more doctors and engineers who speak fluent English, and fewer unskilled laborers with limited English skills.

    Argument 7: The UK could keep the money it currently sends to the EU

    The EU doesn’t have the power to directly collect taxes, but it requires member states to make an annual contribution to the central EU budget. Currently, the UK’s contribution is worth about £13 billion ($19 billion) per year, which is about $300 per person in the UK. (“Leave” supporters have been citing a larger figure, but that figure ignores a rebate that’s automatically subtracted from the UK’s contribution.)

    While much of this money is spent on services in the UK, Brexit supporters still argue that it would be better for the UK to simply keep the money and have Parliament decide how to spend it.

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    The bottom line

    WHAT IS THE SILENT MAJORITY THINKING IN THE USA?

    I stand with TRUMP!

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    The people of the United Kingdom have exercised the sacred right of all free peoples. They have declared their independence from the European Union and have voted to reassert control over their own politics, borders and economy. A Trump Administration pledges to strengthen our ties with a free and independent Britain, deepening our bonds in commerce, culture and mutual defense. The whole world is more peaceful and stable when our two countries – and our two peoples – are united together, as they will be under a Trump Administration.

    Come November, the American people will have the chance to re-declare their independence. Americans will have a chance to vote for trade, immigration and foreign policies that put our citizens first. They will have the chance to reject today’s rule by the global elite, and to embrace real change that delivers a government of, by and for the people. I hope America is watching, it will soon be time to believe in America again.


  • So? The UK Wants to Quit the EU? or Not?

    So? The UK Wants to Quit the EU? Or Not?

    May 11, 2016 All you need to know about the UK’s EU referendum and the Muslim connection can be found on the internet.

    YEPit’s all out there in cyberspace,  everyone that is offending and everyone that is offended  EVERY NEWS MEDIA PROVIDING THE WORLD WITH the most inflammatory incomplete, edited, biased, tense, eager, fearful, game changing,  complicated, fascinating  and SENSATIONAL REPORTS

    How CONTRADICTORY, redundant and overlapping?

    SEP 5, 2015 – A majority of British people would vote to leave the European Union in the … BRITAIN WANTS TO QUIT EUROPE?

    MONDAY MAY 9, 2016  London’s newly elected  Muslim Mayor  Sadiq Khan WANTS BRITAIN TO STAY IN THE EUROPEAN UNION?

    WHO changed the game?

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    London elects Muslim mayor – WND.com

    www.wnd.com/…/london-poised-to-elect-1st-muslim-ma…

    WorldNetDaily

    6 days ago – Kahn’s rise is a testimony to the fact that major sections of the city are already close to 50 percent Muslim, and critics say many of its non-Muslim …

    The United States recently saw its first Muslim-majority city council elected in Hamtramck, Michigan.

    But voters in Britain’s capital and largest city just delivered an even bigger prize to Islam.

    LONDON ELECTED SADIQ KHAN AS ITS MAYOR ON FRIDAY, MAKING HIM THE MOST POWERFUL MUSLIM POLITICIAN IN THE WESTERN WORLD.

    Kahn’s rise is a testimony to the fact that major sections of the city are already close to 50 percent Muslim, and critics say many of its non-Muslim residents seem comfortable with turning the top elected post over to a man with questionable connections to terrorists.

    Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2016/05/islam-tightens-hold-on-europe-with-election-victory/#8s8jlvKscMGw6zKi.99

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     [Why Khan’s victory was so remarkable]

    SADIQ KHAN  VICTORY COMES AT A FASCINATING, TENSE MOMENT. BRITAIN IS POISED TO HOLD A REFERENDUM NEXT MONTH ON ITS MEMBERSHIP IN THE EUROPEAN UNION. THOSE EAGER TO SEVER TIES WITH BRUSSELS ARE, IN PART, MOTIVATED BY FEAR OF IMMIGRATION AND ISLAMIST INFILTRATION. BORIS Johnson, the boisterous politician Khan replaced as London’s mayor, has become one of the biggest backers of what’s known as the “Brexit” movement.

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    Exclusive: London Mayor Sadiq Khan on Religious Extremism, Brexit …

    time.com/4322562/londonmayor-sadiq-khan-donald-trump/

    Time

    2 days ago – You’re the first Muslim mayor of a major western city. … What’s your view on a potential Trump presidency given his remarks on Muslims?

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    MAY 11, 2016

    AS AN AMERICAN CITIZEN,VOTING IN 2016

    What’s your view on a potential TRUMP PRESIDENCY given his remarks on Muslims?

    WHAT’S YOUR VIEW ON ISIS MUSLIM TERRORISTS?

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    ISIS: San Bernardino shooters were ‘supporters’ – CNN.com

    www.cnn.com/2015/12/05/us/sanbernardino-shooting/

    CNN

    Dec 5, 2015 – ISIS militants said the two people who stormed a party in Southern California … San Bernardino shooters ‘supporters’ of ISIS, terror group says.

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    CNN  Dec 9, 2015 Donald Trump defends Muslim ban proposal?

    CNN  Dec 9, 2015 – Why Trump is playing right into ISIS’ hands?

    REALLY? WHO GOT PRAISED? AND WHO GOT PLAYED ?

    ISIS magazine praises San Bernardino terrorists for their sacrifices …

    www.latimes.com/…/la-me-ln-islamic-state-magazine-…

    Los Angeles Times

    Jan 20, 2016 – An Islamic State propaganda magazine praised the San Bernardino terrorists as martyrs for killing 14 people and suggested that the deadliest …

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    Islam tightens hold on Europe with election victory – WND.com

    www.wnd.com/…/islamtightenshold-on-europe-with-ele

    WorldNetDaily

    2 days ago – WND EXCLUSIVE. Islam tightens hold on Europe with election victory. London to be run for the 1st time in history by Muslim. Published: 2 days …Islam tightens hold on Europe with election victory

    Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2016/05/islam-tightens-hold-on-europe-with-election-victory/#8s8jlvKscMGw6zKi.99

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    Number of UK Muslims exceeds three million for first time – Telegraph

    www.telegraph.co.uk › News

    The Daily Telegraph

    Jan 31, 2016 – The highest percentage of Muslims is East London’s Tower Hamlets Photo: … Britain is home to more than three million Muslims for the first time …

    The UK’s EU referendum: All you need to know – BBC News

    www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32810887

    BBC

    Apr 18, 2016 – It is a word that has become used as a shorthand way of saying the UK leaving the EU – merging the words Britain and exit to get Brexit, in a …

    May 11, 2016 All you”REALLY” need to know can be found on the internet

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    All you need to know? BBC News?

    I watched the CBC News, “THE NATIONAL” last night, MAY 10, 2016

    Shame on you Peter Mansbridge, it was, the most inflammatory incomplete, edited, biased and disappointing report I have ever watched on “THE NATIONAL” you own it, you  reported it,  The offending remarks on  Donald Trump’s closing down boarders and vetting immigrants. By you  and London’s newly elected  Muslim Mayor Sadiq Khan

    The National for May 10, 2016 – CBC News – Latest Canada, World …

    www.cbc.ca/news/the-national-for-may102016-1.3576555

    CBC.ca12 hours ago – Welcome to The National, the flagship nightly newscast of CBC News, hosted by Peter Mansbridge.

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    The National for May 10, 2016 47:36

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    London elects Sadiq Khan, first Muslim mayor, after ugly campaign

    www.cnn.com/2016/05/06/…/uk-londonmayoral-race-sadiq-khan/

    CNN

    5 days ago – London elects Sadiq Khan, first Muslim mayor, after ugly campaign ….. His victory followed bitter campaign against Conservative candidate Zac Goldsmith … Muslim and Labour Party politician, has been elected mayor of London, marking … He studied law, became a university lecturer and the chairman of a …

    All you need to know?

    Number of UK Muslims exceeds three million for first time – Telegraph

    www.telegraph.co.uk › News

    The Daily Telegraph

    Jan 31, 2016 – The highest percentage of Muslims is East London’s Tower Hamlets Photo: … Britain is home to more than three million Muslims for the first time …

    All you need to know?

    London has its first Muslim mayor – but who is he? – CNBC.com

    www.cnbc.com/…/hes-the-likely-next-mayor-of-london-but-who-i…

    CNBC

    2 days ago – MONDAY MAY 9, 2016 It’s the rags-to-riches story of a poor boy done well. Sadiq Khan is the son of a London bus driver and a seamstress. He grew up on a government funded housing estate in a poorer area of the city and attended a local state school.

    But what is behind the rise of the new mayor and what will he do as chief politician of one of the world’s most powerful cities?

    In the May 2005 general election he moved to the national stage after winning the vote to become the Member of Parliament for Tooting.

    In doing so, he became the first MP of Islamic faith to win election in London.

    Serving under the Tony Blair cabinet, Sadiq Khan signed an open letter critical of his party’s counter terrorism and foreign policy.

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    UK wants to quit EU according to a new poll as David Cameron …

    www.dailymail.co.uk/…/Britainwants-quit-Europe-Shock-ne…

    Daily Mail

    Sep 5, 2015 – A majority of British people would vote to leave the European Union in the … Britain wants to quit Europe: Shock new poll shows EU ‘no’ camp …

    France wants Britain to leave the EU the most, study of member …

    www.independent.co.uk › News › World › Europe

    The Independent

    Mar 14, 2016 – The French are keener on Britain leaving the EU than any other nationality in the bloc, a study has found. More than 40 per cent of French …

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    All you need to know?

    2008 America has its  first Black President, but who is he? It’s the rags-to-riches story of a poor boy done well, Barack Hussein Obama II is the son of Ann Dunham, a white American from Kansas, and Barack Obama, Sr., a black Kenyan.  He was raised by his grandmother in Hawaii, Obama acknowledged that his father was born a Muslim in a speech  in Washington, D.C. on June 26, 2006. He worked  as a community organizer in Chicago’s largely poor and black South Side

    What we did we do that  day in 2008, in that election, at that defining moment, when the first African American was elected to the White House and became the 44th U.S. president?

    WHAT DID AMERICAN VOTERS DO IN  2012?

    ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW BEFORE YOU VOTE IN 2016  

    IS CHANGE HAS COME TO AMERICA.

    The United States recently saw its first Muslim-majority city council elected in Hamtramck, Michigan.

     


  • The Situation Room NATO Responds To Trump

     The Situation Room NATO Responds To Trump

    Wolf Blitzer, TONIGHT, April 6, 2016, IN A RARE INTERVIEW, NATO’S SECRETARY-GENERAL IS HERE LIVE IN THE SITUATION ROOM. HE WILL RESPOND TO DONALD TRUMP.

    Below is the full unedited text of Wolf Blitzer’s April 6, 2016 The Situation Room  program

    Interview With NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg;

    Aired April 6, 2016 – 17:00   ET

    Also, NATO response. Donald Trump calls the alliance protecting Europe obsolete and says member nations have left paying the bills to the United States, all that as the organization faces criticism it’s not doing enough to fight ISIS right now. Tonight, in a rare interview, NATO’s secretary-general is here live in THE SITUATION ROOM. He will respond to Donald Trump.

    Also tonight, the secretary-general of NATO joins us here in THE SITUATION ROOM after meeting with President Obama. I will ask him about Donald Trump’s recent comment that NATO is obsolete and is not doing enough in the war against ISIS. Our correspondents, analysts and guests are all standing by with full coverage of all of these developing stories.

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    BLITZER: We’re following new developments in the war against ISIS right now and key questions about a key U.S. ally.

    In just a few moments, I will be speaking live with the NATO secretary-general, Jens Stoltenberg. He’s here in THE SITUATION ROOM.

    There are new criminal now — criticisms emerging from Donald Trump, worldwide questions about NATO’s relevance and the role of NATO in the war against is. He’s been here in Washington this week. He’s personally thanking U.S. troops for their help, holding important discussions with President Obama about the alliance’s future.

    But, first, let’s go to our Pentagon correspondent, Barbara Starr.

    Barbara, what have U.S. leaders been saying about NATO’s future and its role in fighting ISIS?

    BARBARA STARR, CNN PENTAGON CORRESPONDENT: Well, right now, Wolf, administration officials are adamant that NATO is good value for the U.S. security dollar, even if the alliance itself is not yet all in on the fight against ISIS.

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    STARR (voice-over): With members of an ISIS terror network at large across Europe, new security worries for President Obama as he meets with his commanders.

    BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: As we have seen from Turkey to Belgium, ISIL still has the ability to launch serious terrorist attacks. One of my main messages today is that destroying ISIL continues to be my top priority.

    STARR: The president hearing military recommendations on how to destroy key ISIS centers of power.

    OBAMA: We can no longer tolerate the kinds of positioning that is enabled by them having headquarters in Raqqa and in Mosul. We have got to keep on putting the pressure on them.

    STARR: While individual NATO member nations have undertaken military actions against ISIS, there are questions about whether the alliance itself should jump in. Great Britain, France and Turkey making some of the biggest contributions in personnel, aircraft and intelligence, but Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump says the U.S. is not getting NATO to shoulder its fair share. DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: The people that study NATO,

    they’re so close to it. They don’t understand that it’s obsolete.

    STARR: Telling Wolf Blitzer in a recent interview the U.S. pays a disproportionate amount to NATO to ensure the security of allies.

    TRUMP: Frankly, they have to put up more money. They are going to have to put some up also. We’re not — we’re paying disproportionately. It’s too much. And, frankly, it’s a different world than it was when we really originally conceived of the idea.

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    STARR: NATO remains central to U.S. national security policy, though many small member nations are unable or unwilling to spend as much on defense as the U.S., even on a proportional basis.

    MAGNUS NORDENMAN, THE ATLANTIC COUNCIL: NATO is far from obsolete and is probably more relevant than it’s ever been before.

    (END VIDEOTAPE)

    STARR: So, is the U.S. paying too much for NATO? The latest calculations show under the U.S. defense budget about 11 cents of every $100 spent on defense goes to the alliance — Wolf.

    BLITZER: All right, Barbara, thanks very much.

    JOINING US NOW IN THE SITUATION ROOM, THE NATO SECRETARY-GENERAL, JENS STOLTENBERG.

    Secretary-General, thanks very much for coming in.

    JENS STOLTENBERG, NATO SECRETARY-GENERAL: Thank you very much.

    BLITZER: Go ahead and tell us why you disagree with Donald Trump when he says NATO right now is, in his word, obsolete.

    STOLTENBERG: Well, I will not be part of the U.S. election campaign, but what I can do is to tell what NATO is doing.

    And we are as vital for security both for the United States and for Europe as we have ever been, because we are living in a more dangerous world. NATO is responding to a more assertive Russia in the East, and we are playing a key role in fighting terrorism, ISIL on the southern flank…

    (CROSSTALK)

    BLITZER: But he makes the point and other critics of NATO make the point that many of the NATO allies, they don’t spend on defense what they should be spending, at least 2 percent of their GDP. The U.S. does, a few other countries, but they are what Donald Trump calls free-riders.

    STOLTENBERG: There are more European NATO allies who should spend more on defense.

    BLITZER: Why don’t they?

    STOLTENBERG: Because they haven’t, so far, implemented what we…

    BLITZER: Can NATO do anything to punish these NATO — there are 28 countries in NATO. They want the benefits, but they don’t want to share the burden.

    STOLTENBERG: Well, we decided in 2014 to stop the cuts in defense spending and then gradually increase toward 2 percent.

    And in the first year after that, in 2015, we have seen that the cuts have stopped. That’s the first step. Then we will continue to push for an increase, and last year, actually 16 NATO allies increased defense spending.

    BLITZER: But they’re still not at that 2 percent level.

    STOLTENBERG: The picture is mixed.

    Some NATO allies spend 2 percent or more, for instance, the United Kingdom, Poland and other — some other NATO allies in Europe. But too many are spending too little. So, that’s the reason we will continue to address these at all our meetings in NATO. And every time we meet leaders from NATO countries in the different capitals, I address this issue.

    BLITZER: Now, NATO countries individually are fighting ISIS, which is a grave threat, as you well know. But NATO as an organization has not gone in to fight ISIS as it did to fight the Taliban, for example, in Afghanistan.

    Why can’t NATO play a role as an organization in trying to crush ISIS?

    STOLTENBERG: As I said, all NATO allies participate, contribute to the international efforts to fight ISIS.

    BLITZER: But why can’t NATO do against ISIS what it did against the Taliban?

    STOLTENBERG: What NATO then does is that we have started to build local capacity to fight ISIL, because we believe that, in the long run, it’s better that we enable local forces to fight ISIL, instead of us deploying a large number of…

    (CROSSTALK)

    BLITZER: But NATO is headquartered in Belgium right now, outside of Brussels. We saw what recently happened. You would think that the NATO alliance would say, you know what? This represents a threat not just to the region, whether Iraq or Syria or elsewhere. It represents a threat to Europe. Most of the NATO allies are in Europe.

    So, why not get together and say, as an organization, we’re going to get the job done and crush ISIS? STOLTENBERG: Well, that’s the reason why we are stepping up our

    efforts, by, for instance, starting to train…

    (CROSSTALK)

    BLITZER: Who is resisting?

    STOLTENBERG: There’s no resistance that NATO shall support the efforts of the coalition.

    But we are doing that in different ways. NATO’s alliance has presence in Turkey, bordering Syria and Iraq. We have increased our presence there. We have started to train Iraqi…

    BLITZER: But Turkey is a member of NATO.

    STOLTENBERG: Yes. But it’s very important for us to be present in Turkey and to provide the assurance, military assurance to Turkey, because Turkey is so much affected of what’s going on in Iraq and Syria.

    Moreover, we have started the training of Iraqi officers, because we strongly believe that by building local capacity, by enabling forces in the region to fight ISIL, that’s a more sustainable solution in the long run.

    BLITZER: Is anyone proposing that NATO do to ISIS what it did to the Taliban?

    STOLTENBERG: Well, NATO and NATO allies are doing that, but…

    BLITZER: NATO — individual NATO countries are doing that, like the United States, the U.K., other countries, but, as an alliance, because that’s what the Americans, a lot of Americans want to hear, that NATO is getting its act together and going to crush ISIS, which is seen as a grave threat.

    STOLTENBERG: The important thing is that we are able together to fight ISIL in an effective way.

    And we have agreed that NATO shall do capacity-building, train, assist and advise. Then the high-end airstrikes shall be done by the coalition, and all NATO allies support those efforts.

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    Then, we have to remember that also what we do in Afghanistan is important when it comes to fighting terrorism.

    BLITZER: But NATO did get involved, and very impressively. A lot of NATO troops, unfortunately, died fighting in Afghanistan. More than 1,000 died in Afghanistan.

    NATO did not get involved as an organization in Iraq, and now it’s still not involved in this fight, as an organization, against ISIS.

    STOLTENBERG: Well, I think to help and train Iraq to fight ISIL, to train Iraqi officers is an important element in fighting ISIS.

    (CROSSTALK)

    BLITZER: How many NATO troops are in Iraq right now training Iraqi troops?

    STOLTENBERG: Well, we have — we do the training in Jordan. And we’re using also Jordanian forces, organized and financed by NATO to train Iraqi forces.

    BLITZER: So you’re training Iraqi forces in Jordan. Why not train them in Iraq?

    STOLTENBERG: Well, that may be the next step.

    But many NATO allies are already doing that. AND, AGAIN, THE WAY WE ORGANIZE THIS IS NOT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING. THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THAT NATO ALLIES IN DIFFERENT WAYS ARE PART OF THE FIGHT AGAINST ISIS.

    BLITZER: One final question. How worried are you about your security, not just you personally, but NATO security in Brussels right now, given what’s going on? We saw the other week what happens.

    STOLTENBERG: What you have seen in Brussels is that no country is immune and no country is 100 percent secure against terrorist attacks.

    And that just underlines the importance of fighting ISIL in Iraq, Syria, but also to step up the work when it comes to intelligence in countries like Belgium. And NATO allies are doing exactly that.

    BLITZER: And you’re beefing up your security at your headquarters, I assume?

    STOLTENBERG: We are.

    BLITZER: Jens Stoltenberg is the NATO secretary-general.

    You got a huge mission ahead of you. Good luck to you. Good luck to all the NATO alliance.

    STOLTENBERG: Thank you.

    BLITZER: Thank you very much for coming in.