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  • Calif. Farmers High Dry and Destitute

    Calif. Farmers HIGH, DRY AND DESTITUTE

    Obama admin allocates water for endangered fish, leaves …

    m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/feb/24/obam
    The Washington Times

    Logo: The Washington Times · Home · NewsObama admin allocates water for endangered fish, leaves California farmers high and dry … Wednesday, February 24, 2016 … some farmers are looking at another year of a zero federal water … “We’ve got to not only take a look at providing project [water] yield, we’ve also got …

    Washington State citizens, private property owners and farmers, in Skagit and Clallam County have been left HIGH, DRY AND DESTITUTE by WA State DOE WATER RULES.

    SO WHAT’S NEW? ENDANGERED FISH BEFORE FARMERS, FOOD AND THE ECONOMY.

    YEP… AGAIN AND STILL, FLUSHING TRILLIONS OF GALLONS PEOPLE WATER DOWN THE ENDANGERED SPECIES TOILET.

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    New post on Pie N Politics

    Feds allocate water for endangered fish, leave Calif. farmers high and dry
    by Liz Bowen
    By Valerie Richardson – The Washington Times
    Wednesday, February 24, 2016
    Despite wetter-than-average weather in California, some farmers are looking at another year of a zero federal water allocation even as the billions of gallons of water continue to be dumped into the ocean in order to save a three-inch fish.
    The worst part for many lawmakers at Wednesday’s House subcommittee hearing is that the Delta smelt remains as vulnerable as ever after the loss of 1.4 trillion gallons of water since 2008 under the federal Endangered Species Act.

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    PLEASE CLICK ON  AND LISTEN TO THE

    subcommittee hearing

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    High, Dry and Destitute

    Posted on by Pearl Rains Hewett

    Fish Before People Regardless of Cost

    Fish Before People Regardless of Cost

    The court held that the protection of EVERY ENDANGERED SPECIES is the highest priority of the federal government, REGARDLESS OF THE COST.

    California’s worst drought in 1200 years in pictures – BBC.com

    FARMERS BEFORE FISH?

    Pacific Legal Foundation, CHALLENGED, sought Supreme Court review, but the High Court denied, it set up reconsideration of the Supreme Court’s  ruling…..

    the court held that the protection of every endangered species is the highest priority of the federal government, regardless of the cost. The result has been a heavy-handed, top-down bureaucracy that frustrates human interests and species conservation.

    Status: On July 23, 2014, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals denied rehearing before the entire court, leaving an adverse ruling from March in place. PLF attorneys filed a petition for certiorari on September 30, 2014. The petition was denied on January 12, 2015.

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    Stewart & Jasper Orchards v. U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service
    Issue: Representing several California farmers, PLF attorneys are challenging the biological opinion (BiOp) by federal agencies used to restrict water deliveries from the Sacramento-San Joaquin Delta in order to protect the Delta smelt, a small fish listed under the Endangered Species Act. In 2012, PLF previously sought Supreme Court review of the case on a Commerce Clause challenge because smelt are in intrastate species, but the High Court denied cert. With a recent adverse ruling at the Ninth Circuit on the biological opinion, it sets up reconsideration of the Supreme Court’s TVA v. Hill decision, relied on by the Ninth Circuit to uphold the smelt BiOp. In TVA v. Hill, the court held that the protection of every endangered species is the highest priority of the federal government, regardless of the cost. The result has been a heavy-handed, top-down bureaucracy that frustrates human interests and species conservation.

    Status: On July 23, 2014, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals denied rehearing before the entire court, leaving an adverse ruling from March in place. PLF attorneys filed a petition for certiorari on September 30, 2014.

    The petition was denied on January 12, 2015.

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    Complex and contradictory laws, and court decisions, and regulations have made it nearly impossible for water to flow and our communities to grow

    Indeed, a  growing number of communities across the West have become impacted by severe drought conditions,

    Washington State Declares Drought Emergency

    www.huffingtonpost.com/…/washingtondrought-e
    The Huffington Post

    May 15, 2015 – Drought isn’t just a California problem, folks. Washington Gov. Jay Inslee declared a statewide drought emergency on Friday

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    How complex is this?

    The court held that the protection of EVERY ENDANGERED SPECIES is the highest priority of the federal government, REGARDLESS OF THE COST.

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     As House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy explained, “California is enduring its worst drought in 1,200 years, and a growing number of communities across the West have become impacted by severe drought conditions.”

    This week, the House will consider a bill to address water policies in California and the West:

    What happened to this?

    Western Water and American Food Security Act (HR 2898)

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    Dec 4, 2015

    Behind My Back | Congress Must Act on Water Issues

    www.behindmyback.org/2015/12/04/congressmust-act-on-water-issues/

    Dec 4, 2015Congress Must Act on Water Issues May 24, 2014 It takes an act of the U.S. … www.behindmyback.org/2015/02/01/high–dry-and-destitute/.

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  • Drought Forums for Tribes and Citizens

    Drought Forums for Tribes and Citizens

    Question on Drought by Keith “I asked Jeff Marti  HOW MUCH INFLUENCE DO TRIBES HAVE IN THE DECISION-MAKING PROCESS.  Jeff Marti  said, “ABSOLUTELY NONE”!

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    A Question  for ECOLOGY  

    HOW MUCH INFLUENCE DO TRIBES HAVE IN THE DECISION-MAKING PROCESS FOR COMMUNITY DROUGHT FORUMS?

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    [PDF]Tribal Consultation and Coordination Policy of the U.S. …

    Tribal Consultation and COORDINATION Policy of the U.S. Department

    of Commerce

    The Department’s mission encompasses many complex issues where cooperation

    and MUTUAL CONSIDERATION AMONG GOVERNMENTS (FEDERAL, STATE, TRIBAL, AND

    LOCAL) are essential. The Department and operating units will promote intradepartmental and interagency COORDINATION AND COOPERATION

    to assist Tribal governments in resolving issues requiring mutual effort.

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    Jeff Marti  email THE FORUM WE, ECOLOGY, RECENTLY ATTENDED IN SEQUIM WAS ORGANIZED BY THE JAMESTOWN S’KLALLAM TRIBE” in “COOPERATION” with the DUNGENESS WATER USERS MANAGEMENT GROUP and included participation by LOCAL GOVERNMENTS as well.

    A Questions for ECOLOGY

    If?  Ecology attends and participates  IN  “COOPERATION” WITH THE JAMESTOWN S’KLALLAM TRIBE?

    Why can’t Ecology attend and participate   IN  “COOPERATION” WITH THE CITIZENS of WA State?

    OR? did ECOLOGY ACTUALLY attend and participate  IN THE JAMESTOWN S’KLALLAM TRIBE COMMUNITY DROUGHT FORUM AS  REQUIRED BY THECOORDINATION” Policy of the U.S.?

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    A Question for ECOLOGY

    HOW MUCH INFLUENCE DO CITIZENS HAVE IN THE DECISION-MAKING PROCESS FOR PUBLIC DROUGHT FORUMS?

    Should ECOLOGY attend and participate IN COOPERATION WITH WA STATE CITIZENS?

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    Jeff Marti, “We are still considering whether additional forums elsewhere would be APPROPRIATE” 

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    A Question for ECOLOGY

     WOULD THE ONLY “APPROPRIATE”  COMMUNITY DROUGHT FORUMS,

    FOR WA STATE CITIZENS, IN EMERGENCY DROUGHT AREAS

     BE REQUIRED TO BE ORGANIZED AND REQUESTED BY GOVERNMENTS?

     FEDERAL, STATE, TRIBAL, AND LOCAL  USING INTRADEPARTMENTAL AND INTERAGENCY COORDINATION AND COOPERATION?

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    A question for ECOLOGY  

    Would it be APPROPRIATE for  ECOLOGY to attend and participate IN COOPERATION WITH WA STATE CITIZENS?

    IF YOU’RE A NORMAL PERSON, YOU’D ANSWER “YES,  USUALLY it Would  be APPROPRIATE for  ECOLOGY to attend and participate IN COOPERATION WITH WA STATE CITIZENS

    HOWEVER, THE ISSUE OF COMMUNITY DROUGHT FORUMS FOR TRIBES VS. COMMUNITY DROUGHT FORUMS FOR CITIZENS  ISN’T THAT SIMPLE.  IT ACTUALLY BOILS DOWN TO A “VALUE JUDGMENT” OF WHAT WE WANT OUR WORLD TO LOOK LIKE.

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    [PDF]Tribal Consultation and Coordination Policy of the U.S. …

    ORGANIZED BY ELECTED GOVERNMENT and TRIBES?  FEDERAL, STATE , TRIBAL, AND LOCAL USING INTRADEPARTMENTAL AND INTERAGENCY COORDINATION AND COOPERATION?

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    Question for ECOLOGY?

     ARE CITIZENS EQUALLY AS IMPORTANT AS TRIBES?

    IF YOU’RE A NORMALPERSON, YOU’D ANSWER , YES, CITIZENS USUALLY ARE EQUALLY AS IMPORTANT AS TRIBES .

    HOWEVER, THE ISSUE OF IMPORTANCE OF TRIBES VS. THE IMPORTANCE OF CITIZENS  ISN’T THAT SIMPLE.  IT ACTUALLY BOILS DOWN TO A “VALUE JUDGMENT” OF WHAT WE WANT OUR WORLD TO LOOK LIKE.

    Tribal Consultation and Coordination Policy of the U.S. …

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    A CITIZENS REQUEST FOR A COMMUNITY DROUGHT FORUM

    WE CAN HOST YOUR MEETING! I’LL HANDLE EVERYTHING; DOE JUST HAS TO SHOW UP.

    The best location for a future drought meeting is Quinault. We are exactly in the middle of the west side of the Olympics; one hour for Forks citizens to drive and one hour for Aberdeen/Hoquiam citizens to drive. To hold a meeting in either Forks or Aberdeen/Hoquiam requires the other citizens to drive two hours, one way, for such a meeting.

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    LAST Response from Ecology on Citizen’s  request for a Community Drought Forum

    Jeff Marti

    I hope that gives you some background on our drought process.  I also appreciate your request to hold a drought forum in the Quinault area.   I can’t confirm at this point whether a forum will be scheduled for the Quinault area, but we are considering your request.

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    JAMESTOWN S’KLALLAM TRIBAL COMMUNITY DROUGHT FORUM

    May 21, 2015 6:00-8:30PM Guy Cole Convention Center Sequim, WA 98382

     

    OBJECTIVES:

    • To provide information about the current drought and how it is impacting water supplies (for humans and wildlife).
    • To describe drought response to date by various entities.
    • To answer questions and hear concerns people have about the drought.
    • To let people know what they can do to try to lessen the impacts of drought.

     

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    ANOTHER CITIZENS REQUEST FOR A COMMUNITY DROUGHT FORUM ….

    Citizens are human, please  provide information about the current emergency drought and how is it  going to impact citizens water supplies?

    What is the worst case scenario? For farmers, loggers, fishermen and the tourist industry?

    What is WA State drought emergency preparedness plan for wildfires?

    Is WA State, DNR, Ecology etc. prepared for the worst?

    Citizens  want specific answers on how the drought emergency will affect their lives in the areas where they live and the local economy?

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    FORMAT Agenda JAMESTOWN S’KLALLAM TRIBAL COMMUNITY DROUGHT FORUM

     

     

    TIME

    TOPIC

    SPEAKER

    6:00 – 6:25 1.   Welcome and Introductions

    • Drought Overview
    • Status and Response
    Michael Gallagher and Jeff MartiWA Department of Ecology
    6:25 – 6:45 2.   Water 101 and Water Supply Outlook(Snowpack, Precipitation, Streamflow) Scott PatteeNatural Resources Conservation Service
    6:45 – 7:05 3.    Fish and Wildlife Impacts/Needs During Drought Teresa ScottWA Department of Fish and Wildlife

    Scott Chitwood

    Jamestown S’Klallam Tribe

    7:05 – 7:45 4.   Wildfire Preparation/Weather Forecasts Julie Knobel and Bryan Suslick WA Department of Natural Resources

    Andrew Haner

    National Weather Service

    7:45 – 8:25 5.   PANEL DISCUSSION           Local Actions Related to Water Supplies/Drought

    • Water Users Association
    • Washington Water Trust
    • City of Sequim
    • Clallam PUD
    • Washington Department of Health
    MODERATOR:  Mike Gallagher, WADOE 

    Ben Smith

    Amanda Cronin

    David Garlington

    Tom Martin

    Ginnie Stern

    8:25 – 8:30 6.   Closing Remarks Michael Gallagher and Jeff MartiWA Department of Ecology

     

     

     


  • Past and Present Drought in WA State

    History of Droughts in Washington State

    An interesting read on WA State DROUGHT PLANS

    BEFORE THE INSTREAM FLOW RULES.

    History of Droughts in Washington State_1977.pdf  A 43 page document

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    PRESENT DROUGHT PLANS FOR CITIZENS IN WA STATE?

    AFTER THE INSTREAM FLOW RULES?

    May 24, 2015  The WA statewide drought emergency PLAN?.

    Hmmm…  LAWMAKERS have yet to act on DOE’s request for $9.6 million in drought relief funds. The request came in late March, weeks after legislators began putting together spending plans.

    UPDATE: WHAT’S THE HOLDUP ON THE $9.6 MILLION IN DROUGHT RELIEF FUNDS?

    What’s the problem?

    WATER FOR CITIZENS IS WORTH FIGHTING FOR…

    IT’S A VALUE JUDGMENT

    At a drought committee meeting Monday, Honeyford reminded Stanford that he had been willing to embrace Stanford’s drought preparation bill in exchange for the House approving legislation to let the city of Lynden draw water from the Nooksack River in Whatcom County.

    Tribes and environmental groups oppose the bill, which passed the Senate.

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    THE “CITIZENS  REVIEW” OF ECOLOGY’S DROUGHT PLANS IN WA STATE?

    What YOU can expect at a COMMUNITY DROUGHT FORUM?

    This  Report by Lois Krafsky-Perry
    for Citizen Review
    Posted Saturday, May 23, 2015

    Sequim/Dungeness community listens to drought concerns

    IT’S A MUST READ

    http://citizenreviewonline.org/sequimdungeness-community-listens-to-drought-concerns/

    CITIZENS REVIEW  is an online  resource for disseminating critical information to keep citizens informed

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    AS PROVIDED ABOVE BY LOIS…

    We the people have partners too….

    My website, behindmyback.org,  is dedicated to investigating, researching, documenting, UPDATING and disseminating critical information to help keep American citizens informed by posting and reporting things they don’t know. This is just one chapter in the book of revelations by Pearl Revere.

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     A 43 page document History of Droughts in Washington State_1977.pdf

    MEDIA Drought alert Sun., Feb. 6, 1977  

    WOW! THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

    Dear Reader: On February 16, 1977, Governor Dixy Lee Ray established the “Governor’s … drought occurrences in the State of Washington since 1900. Various.

    OCR Text

    Northwest Officials ponder energy outlook By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Some nfflntnla HUn n*a« nn n_.. «-L. nn«<m.»». .i~-i_i_n.. M .-. THE DAILY NEWS—21 Angeles, Wash., Sun., Feb. 6, 1977

    By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Nervous government weather- watchers are mobilizing for battle should a Pacific Northwest drought short-circuit electric power and whither crops this spring. Homeowners may be asked — or forced — to reduce their electrical use. During Christmas, Seattle City Light asked its 370,000 customers not to use outdoor decorative lighting. Further sacrifices may be around the corner if a serious drought occurs.

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    MEDIA COVERAGE?   2015 WA STATE DROUGHT?  

    NOT SO MUCH..

    CAPITAL PRESS  Published:  

    Their full media report is  here

    Washington’s late reaction to drought revives legislation …

    www.capitalpress.com/Washington/…/washingtons-late-react

    Capital Press May 14, 2015 – A House bill to revise how the state prepares for a drought sank in the Senate, but may resurface in the special session.

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    Ecology’s  current drought report is sort of an interesting reading.

    Last revised: May 22, 2015

    Washington Drought 2015 | Washington State Department …

    www.ecy.wa.gov/drought/

    3 days ago – Washington State Weekly Drought Update – Office of Washington State … Current Snow Water Equivalent (SWE) % of Normal – View Map …

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    And more history…. a response from Ecology

    —– Original Message —–

    From: Marti, Jeff (ECY)

    To: pearl hewett

    Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 5:23 PM

    Subject: RE: History of Droughts in Washington State

    Pearl, good sleuthing.   1977 was indeed a bad drought year, which triggered the (still ongoing) Yakima water rights adjudication.

    Here’s a couple more reports that you might find interesting.

    Jeff

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    Jeff Marti

    Water Resources Program

    360-407-6627

    jeff.marti@ecy.wa.gov

    2005 Drought Response Report to the Legislature

    www.ecy.wa.gov/biblio/0611001.html

    • 2005 Drought Response Report to the Legislature … While it is generally viewed as a climate anomaly, in fact drought is the dry part of the normal climate cycle.

    Drought Response 2001: Report to the Legislature

    www.ecy.wa.gov/biblio/0111017.html

    Author(s), Curt Hart. Description, This legislative report outlines how the state agencies responsible for managing Washington’s emergency drought activities .

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    History of Droughts in Washington State 1900 to 1977 etc…

    Title History of Droughts in Washington State
    Publication Type Report
    Year of Publication 1977
    Authors Staff, GAHEWEC
    Keywords climate, droughts, environment, historic, history, washington, water
    Title History of Droughts in Washington State
    Publication Type Report
    Year of Publication 1977
    Authors Staff, GAHEWEC
    Keywords climate, droughts, environment, historic, history, washington, water

     



  • Are You A Normal Person?

    Are You A Normal Person?

    The is a DIRECT QUOTE OF ECOLOGY’S ANSWER  to a basic question.

    Aren’t people more important than fish?

    IF YOU’RE A NORMAL PERSON, YOU’D ANSWER “YES, PEOPLE USUALLY ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN FISH.”

    HOWEVER, the issue of instream flow isn’t that simple.  It actually boils down to a “VALUE JUDGMENT” of what we want our world to look like.

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    VALUE JUDGMENT by definition

    An assessment of a person, situation, or event. The term is often restricted to assessments that reveal the values of the person making the assessment rather than the objective realities of what is being assessed.

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    WA STATE DEPT OF ECOLOGY  Answers to your basic questions,

    http://www.ecy.wa.gov/programs/wr/instream-flows/isf101.html

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    ARE INSTREAM FLOWS ALL ABOUT PROTECTING FISH? WHAT ABOUT PEOPLE?

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    SO? WHAT ABOUT PEOPLE?

    ARE YOU A NORMAL PERSON?

     By definition.. NORMAL is also used to describe individual behaviour that CONFORMS TO THE MOST COMMON BEHAVIOUR IN SOCIETY (known as conformity). Definitions of normality vary by person, time, place, and situation – it changes along with changing societal standards and norms.

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    ARE PEOPLE USUALLY MORE IMPORTANT THAN FISH?

    By definition.. USUALLY?

    1. Commonly encountered, experienced, or observed

    2. Regularly or customarily used

    3. In CONFORMITY with regular practice or procedure:

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    ARE PEOPLE  MORE IMPORTANT THAN FISH?

    USUALLY…….

    By definition.. HOWEVER

    1. In spite of that

    2. nevertheless

    3.  by whatever means

    4.  in whatever manner

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    It actually boils down to aVALUE JUDGMENT” (by definition)

    An assessment of a person, situation, or event. The term is often restricted TO ASSESSMENTS THAT REVEAL THE VALUES OF THE PERSON MAKING THE ASSESSMENT rather than the objective realities of what is being assessed.

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    THE VALUES OF THE PERSON MAKING THE ASSESSMENT?

     WA STATE DEPT OF ECOLOGY VALUES FISH BEFORE PEOPLE?

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    Hmmm… THE $$$ VALUES  OF EARTH ECONOMICS ?

    devoted to promoting ecosystem health and ecological economics

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    WA STATE DEPT OF ECOLOGY

    Introduction to Instream Flows and Instream Flow Rules
    Answers to your basic questions,

    http://www.ecy.wa.gov/programs/wr/instream-flows/isf101.html

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    What was the question?

    Are instream flows all about protecting fish? What about people?

    What was ECOLOGY’S Answer?

    Isn’t instream flow really an issue of “water for fish” vs. “water for people”?  Aren’t people more important than fish?  If you’re a normal person, you’d answer “yes, people usually are more important than fish.”  However, the issue of instream flow isn’t that simple.  It actually boils down to a value judgment of what we want our world to look like.  Fish are in fact just one of many organisms that live in streams but they often offer a gauge of overall environmental health.

     Instream flow is an issue of water and river management – seeking ways to maintain healthy, diverse ecosystems that contribute to a high quality of life while sustaining our basic life functions and economies.  Accomplishing this goal is never easy, as it involves integration of scientific knowledge and societal demands within a set of legal limitations.

    But informed and effective instream flow management should afford a healthy, enjoyable existence for people while maintaining healthy, diverse aquatic resources.   It’s much more complicated than “keeping a little water in the creek for the fish.”

    Instream Flow Council

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    WA STATE ELECTED LEGISLATORS VALUE JUDGMENT?

     INSTREAM FLOW IS AN ISSUE OF WATER FOR CITIZENS

    An assessment of a person, situation, or event. THE TERM IS OFTEN RESTRICTED TO ASSESSMENTS THAT REVEAL THE VALUES OF THE PERSON MAKING THE ASSESSMENT rather than the objective realities of what is being assessed.

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    THE OBJECTIVE REALITIES OF WHAT IS BEING ASSESSED?

    Start here

    EVEN,  BEFORE GOVERNOR INSLEE’S WA STATE DROUGHT DECLARATION

    INSTREAM FLOW WAS AN ISSUE OF WATER FOR CITIZENS

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    Behind My Back | High, Dry and Destitute

    www.behindmyback.org/2015/02/01/highdry-and-destitute/

    Feb 1, 2015 – High, Dry and Destitute WA State citizens, private property owners and farmers, in Skagit and Clallam County have been left HIGH, DRY AND 

    DESTITUTE  by definition, WITHOUT THE BASIC NECESSITIES OF LIFE.

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    WHAT’S NEXT?

    AFTER, GOVERNOR INSLEE’S WA STATE DROUGHT DECLARATION?

    INSTREAM FLOW IS NOW A  CRITICAL ISSUE OF WATER FOR CITIZENS

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    WHAT’S NEXT?

    Community Drought Forum

    May 21, 2015

    6:00-8:30PM

    Guy Cole Convention Center

    202 North Blake Avenue, Sequim, WA 98382

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    Please GO PUBLIC with this.

    Invite every “CITIZEN” that is critically affected by

    Ecology’s WA State Drought Response?

    2015 Dungeness Dry Year Leasing Program FAQs

    GOT QUESTIONS? WANT ANSWERS?

    PLEASE  attend this Clallam County Community Drought Forum

    JEFF MARTI DROUGHT COORDINATOR WASHINGTON DEPARTMENT OF ECOLOGY WILL BE THERE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.

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    ARE YOU CONCERNED ABOUT ECOLOGY’S WATER VALUE JUDGMENT?

    GOT QUESTIONS? WANT ANSWERS?

    WATER RESOURCES ADVISORY COMMITTEE (WRAC)

    Meetings are normally attended by about FORTY PEOPLE WHO REPRESENT STATE AGENCIES, LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, WATER UTILITIES, INDIAN TRIBES, ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS, CONSULTANTS, LAW FIRMS AND OTHER WATER STAKEHOLDERS. 

     GOT QUESTIONS? WANT ANSWERS?

    CONTACT

    Chris Anderson
    Department of Ecology, Water Resources Program
    e-mail: chris.anderson@ecy.wa.gov
    Phone: 360-407-6634

     


  • Water for Fish vs. Water for People?

    Water for Fish vs.  Water for People?

     Aren’t people more important than fish? 

     If you’re a normal person, you’d answer “yes,

    people USUALLY are more important than FISH.” 

    HOWEVER, THE ISSUE OF “INSTREAM FLOW” ISN’T THAT SIMPLE.  IT ACTUALLY BOILS DOWN TO A VALUE JUDGMENT

    WA  STATE LAW IS CLEAR THAT INSTREAM FLOWS  “MUST” BE SET AT LEVELS THAT PROTECT AND PRESERVE FISH

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    WA STATE DEPT OF ECOLOGY

    Introduction to Instream Flows and Instream Flow Rules
    Answers to your basic questions,

    http://www.ecy.wa.gov/programs/wr/instream-flows/isf101.html

    What is an instream flow? Answer…

    Why are stream flows important? Answer…

    What is an “instream flow rule”? Answer…

    Are there instream flows set in my watershed? Answer…

    How could setting instream flows affect me? Answer…

    Are instream flows all about protecting fish? What about people? Answer…

    How are instream flow numbers determined? Answer…

    Why are instream flows sometimes higher than the flow in the stream? Answer…

    Why not set flow levels lower than the existing flows in the stream? Answer…

    What are the laws that allow Ecology to set flows by rule? Answer…

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    GOT QUESTIONS?  ECOLOGY’S GOT ALL THE BASIC ANSWERS

    Introduction to Instream Flows and Instream Flow Rules …

    www.ecy.wa.gov › Water Resources › Instream Flows In Washington

    This web page answers basic questions about instream flows and instream flow rules.

    Introduction to Instream Flows and Instream Flow Rules

    This web page answers basic questions about instream flows and instream flow rules.

    What is an instream flow? Answer…

    Why are stream flows important? Answer…

    What is an “instream flow rule”? Answer…

    Are there instream flows set in my watershed? Answer…

    How could setting instream flows affect me? Answer…

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    Are instream flows all about protecting fish? What about people?

    Answer…

    Washington state law requires that instream resources, including fish, have adequate flow levels to protect and preserve them.

    When setting flows, a lot of discussion centers around fish needs because fish are considered an “indicator species” – setting instream flow levels adequate for fish generally provides flows adequate for other instream resources. And fish needs can be more easily quantified by existing methods than other instream values.  This is why fish studies are usually the basis for determining instream flow numbers.

    Adequate stream flows are important for instream resources and values that directly impact people, including water quality, recreational activities like fishing, boating and swimming, and the scenic and aesthetic qualities of natural settings that Washington State is famous for. (Also see the question Why are stream flows important?)

    When making decisions about water right permits, it is necessary to know how much is needed and how much is available.  Adopting instream flow rules help Ecology determine whether there is enough water for additional out-of-stream uses and support local communities in managing their current and future water needs.

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    ISN’T INSTREAM FLOW REALLY AN ISSUE OF

    “WATER FOR FISH” VS. “WATER FOR PEOPLE”? 

     AREN’T PEOPLE MORE IMPORTANT THAN FISH? 

     IF YOU’RE A NORMAL PERSON, YOU’D ANSWER

     “YES, PEOPLE USUALLY ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN FISH.” 

     HOWEVER, THE ISSUE OF INSTREAM FLOW ISN’T THAT SIMPLE. 

     IT ACTUALLY BOILS DOWN TO A VALUE JUDGMENT

    of what we want our world to look like.  Fish are in fact just one of many organisms that live in streams but they often offer a gauge of overall environmental health.

    Instream flow is an issue of water and river management – seeking ways to maintain healthy, diverse ecosystems that contribute to a high quality of life while sustaining our basic life functions and economies.  Accomplishing this goal is never easy, as it involves integration of scientific knowledge and societal demands within a set of legal limitations.

    But informed and effective instream flow management should afford a healthy, enjoyable existence for people while maintaining healthy, diverse aquatic resources.   It’s much more complicated than “keeping a little water in the creek for the fish.”

    Instream Flow Council

    Welcome to the Instream Flow Council (link as provided above by ecology)

    The Instream Flow Council (IFC) is a NON-PROFIT organization made up of state, provincial, and territorial fish and wildlife agencies working to improve the effectiveness of instream flow programs and activities for conserving fish and wildlife and related aquatic resources.

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    How are instream flow numbers determined? Answer…

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    Why are instream flows sometimes higher than the flow in the stream?

    Answer…

    While the amount of water in the stream is considered when determining instream flow numbers, they cannot be based solely on existing levels (see next question).

    STATE LAW IS CLEAR THAT INSTREAM FLOWS MUST BE SET AT LEVELS THAT PROTECT AND PRESERVE FISH and instream resources over the long-term.  The instream flows reflect levels that would be beneficial for fish if those flows were present in the stream.

    Actual stream flow levels naturally vary throughout the year due to seasonal changes and water use.  So the differences between the actual stream flows and instream flows will also vary throughout the year.

    If the instream flow number is high relative to the average stream flow in the stream in the summer, this does not mean that the instream flow number is wrong.  Rather it means that the stream will provide more fish habitat in wet years than in dry ones.  Protecting the occasional “good water year” is needed to preserve a healthy population of fish.  If we want to protect the habitat available in those good wet years, then the instream flow needs to be set at that higher flow level.

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    Why not set flow levels lower than the existing flows in the stream? Answer…

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    What are the laws that allow Ecology to set flows by rule?

    Answer…

    The legal authority to set instream flows by rule comes from laws passed by the state legislature, including:

    • Construction projects in state waters (RCW 77.57.020)
    • Water code (RCW 90.03.247)
    • Minimum water flows and levels (Chapter 90.22 RCW)
    • Water resources act of 1971 (Chapter 90.54 RCW, particularly section 020)
    • Watershed planning (RCW 90.82.080

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    The bottom line

    The nuts and the Boltd of it

    THE ISSUE OF “INSTREAM FLOW” IS REALLY VERY SIMPLE. 

    IT ACTUALLY BOILS DOWN TO A VALUE JUDGMENT

    NO MORE FISH BEFORE PEOPLE