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  • SMP 19 Unresolved Issues 2012-2017

    Another 2017 SMP Update concern to Clallam County Commissioner

    At the July 10, 2012 SMP Committee Advisory meeting

    Two thirds or more of the SMP Advisory Committee

    VOTED TO WALK  AWAY AND LEAVE 19 UNRESOLVED SMP ISSUES ON THE TABLE,

    against my suggestion that we needed an additional August meeting to complete our duty to the citizens and private property owners, as SMP advisors, prior to the final SMP draft proposal being written.

    LEAVING 19 OR MORE PROPOSED SMP DRAFT ISSUES RELATED TO THE DOE SMP TAKING OF PRIVATE PROPERTY without argument, suggestions or comment?

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    Part two, What happened to us? the 3000 and the 19 unresolved issues behind our back, behind closed doors by the SMP Update bureaucrats and the paid facilitators ?

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    THE SMP Advisory Committee

    Pearl Rains Hewett Trustee—– Original Message —–

    From: pearl hewett

    To: Lois Perry ; Sue Forde ; zSMP

    Cc: Karl Spees ; Jo Anne Estes ; Katie Krueger ; connie beauviasMarv Chastain ; Jay Petersen ; harry bell ; Steve Gray ; notac; ; jim McEntire ; smiller@co.clallam.wa.us

    Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 3:13 PM

    Subject: SMP COMMENT ON THE SMP Advisory Committee

    This is my comment

    on the SMP Advisory Committee

    George C. Rains Estate

    Concerned Member SMP Advisory Committee

    At the July 10, 2012 SMP Committee Advisory meeting

    Two thirds or more of the SMP Advisory Committee

    VOTED TO WALK  AWAY FROM THE TABLE,

    against my suggestion that we needed an additional August meeting to complete our duty to the citizens and private property owners, as SMP advisors, prior to the final SMP draft proposal being written.

    The SMP Advisory Committee that  represent the 3300 Clallam County shoreline private property owners is approximately as follows.

    1/3 = 10 private interest groups

    1/3 = 10 paid government employees

    1/3 = 10 SMP Affected taxpaying private property owners (only 8 at this meeting)

    DOES THE MAKEUP OF THIS COMMITTEE EXPLAINS WHY?

    THEY VOTED TO WALK  AWAY FROM THE TABLE

    LEAVING 19 OR MORE PROPOSED SMP DRAFT ISSUES RELATED TO THE DOE SMP TAKING OF PRIVATE PROPERTY without argument, suggestions or comment?

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    July 14, 2012 FIRST SMP PUBLIC COMMENT

    On the 19 unresolved SMP issues that went to the Planning Dept …

    Jul 4, 2015 THREE YEARS LATER SECOND SMP PUBLIC COMMENT

    On the 19 unresolved SMP issues that went to the Planning Dept …

    19 Unresolved SMP Issues AN SMP Public … – Clallam County

    www.clallam.net/LandUse/documents/635_PHewett.pdf

    Jul 4, 2015 – On 19 unresolved SMP issues that went to the Planning … The 19 unresolved SMP issues on July 10, 2012 ….. Of …www.behindmyback.org.

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    July 14, 2012 FIRST SMP PUBLIC COMMENT continued…

    (1) DISCUSSED AND QUESTIONED? The undecipherable table with the percentages, the 15% of whatever? It made no sense to me either? Jay Pedersen could help with  his knowledge of what he thought it actually was/represented? It would be very helpful to members of the committee.

    The written text related to the undecipherable table below

    1. Minor new development Grading shall not exceed 500 cubic yards; and ii. Land disturbing activities shall not exceed 20,000 square feet, except that on parcels less than five (5) acres, land disturbing activities must not exceed fifteen (15) percent of the gross parcel size; and iii. The total cumulative footprint of all structures on a parcel must be less than 4,000 square feet; and iv. The total cumulative impervious surface area on the parcel must be less than ten (10) . All land disturbing activities must be located on slopes less than fifteen (15) percent; and vi. All land disturbing activities must comply with any critical area buffer and other protection standards established for parcels created by land division.

     

    (2) DISCUSSED AND QUESTIONED? NOT ADDRESSED

    The limited number of trained specialists,  Jay’s comment was in reference to the county SMP  requiring specialists, to perform the mitigation tests. If a property owner could even find one to do the testing? The time delay and cost would be prohibitive.

     

    (3) PRESENTED NOT DISCUSSED

    SMP Excessive restrictions on all forms of developments. I am extremely concerned about the additional restrictive requirements written into the SMP update for major development. They are counter- productive to the economic recovery of Clallam County, they restrict the ability of business and citizens to create employment opportunities in both Clallam County and Port Angeles. Why are the Dept. of Community Development and the planning biting off their own feet? Why are they creating these obsessive restrictions on all developments?

    The way Steve was talking it, with all the added bells and whistles, it was to make any form of mitigation for anything totally infeasible, creating a like it or lump it, situation for all development by business or private shoreline property owners.

     

    (4) PRESENTED- DISCUSSED but NOT ADDRESSED

    The cumulative effect of setbacks SHORELINE, WETLAND and HABITAT   Ed Bowen did a good job when he pointed out an example of the enormous  loss of private property use with the setbacks on Lake Pleasant, in conjunction with the yet undetermined, Clallam County DOE designated WETLANDS.

     

    (5) PRESENTED NOT ADDRESSED

    More additional HABITAT setbacks

    It was impressive how smoothly Margaret and Steve just added on the additional habitat setbacks, but did not mention endangered species.

    1. Rare, endangered, threatened and sensitive species means plant and animal species identified and listed by the Washington State Department of Natural Resources, Washington Natural Heritage Program, Washington State Department of Fish and Wildlife, or the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, as being severely limited or threatened with extinction within their native ranges.
    2. Threatened species means a species that is likely to become an endangered species within the foreseeable future, as classified by the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife, the Department of Natural Resources, Washington Natural Heritage Program, or the federal Endangered Species Act.

     

    (6) ED BOWEN COMMENT NOT ADDRESSED

    1. Recording means the filing of a document(s) for recordation with the County auditor.

     

    (7) NO DISCUSSION OR RESOLUTION (not required by law)

    1. Restoration means the reestablishment or upgrading of impaired ecological shoreline processes or functions. This may be accomplished through measures including, but not limited to, revegetation, removal of fill, removal of intrusive shoreline structures and removal or treatment of toxic materials. Restoration does not imply a requirement for returning the shoreline area to aboriginal or pre-European settlement conditions.

     

    (8) DOE DESIGNATED WETLANDS NOT IDENTIFIED OR INCORPORATED

    Wetlands have no boundaries, adjoining wetlands could restrict the use of your property.

    1. Wetlands means areas that are inundated or saturated by surface water or ground water at a frequency and duration sufficient to support, and that under normal circumstances support, a prevalence of vegetation typically adapted for life in saturated soil conditions. Wetlands generally include swamps, marshes, bogs and similar areas. Wetlands do not include those artificial wetlands intentionally created for non-wetland sites, including, but not limited to, irrigation and drainage ditches, grass lined swales, canals, detention facilities, wastewater treatment facilities, farm ponds, and landscape amenities or those wetlands created after July 1, 1990, that were unintentionally created as a result of the construction of a road, street, or highway. Wetlands created as mitigation and wetland modified for approved land use activities shall be considered as regulated wetlands.

     

    PROHIBITED EXCEPTION DISCUSSED AND RESOLVED BY RCW

    Provisions for protection SHALL be included in SMP up date.

    1. Revetment means a sloped wall constructed of rip-rap or other suitable material placed on stream banks or other shorelines to retard bank erosion and minimize lateral stream movement.
    2. Rip-rap means dense, hard, angular rock free from cracks or other defects conductive to weathering often used for bulkheads, revetments or similar slope/bank stabilization purposes.

     

    (9) DISCUSSED UNDEFINED NO RESOLUTION [insert final date]

    3.1.1 Shoreline Environment Designations

    1. A shoreline environment designation has been assigned to each segment of the shoreline in accordance with this section. The designations are based on the following general factors:
    2. The ecological functions and processes that characterize the shoreline, together with the degree of human alteration as determined by the [insert final date] Shoreline Inventory and Characterization Report and subsequent technical analyses; and

     

    (10) NOT PRESENTED OR  DISCUSSED

     EXPENSE OF SPECIALISTS FOR APPROVAL

    1. c. Hazard Tree Removal: Removal of a hazard tree may be allowed in the buffer when trimming is not sufficient to address the hazard. Where the hazard is not immediately apparent to the Administrator, the hazard tree determination SHALL be made after Administrator review of a report prepared by a qualified arborist or forester.

    (11) NOT PRESENTED OR  DISCUSSED

    EXPENSE OF SPECIALISTS FOR APPROVAL

    1. Invasive Species Management: Removing invasive, non-native shoreline vegetation listed on the Clallam County Noxious Weed List may be allowed in the buffer when otherwise consistent with this Program. The disturbed areas must be promptly revegetated using species native to western Washington. The Administrator SHALL require a vegetation management plan prepared by a qualified ecologist, forester, arborist, or landscape architect prior to approving the invasive species removal. The vegetation management plan SHALL  identify and describe the location and extent of vegetation management. For properties within designated landslide or erosion hazard areas, the Administrator may require review of the vegetation management plan by an engineering geologist or geotechnical engineer to ensure that the vegetation management will not cause or exacerbate hazards associated with soil or slope instability. The location and size of the invasive species management area SHALL be clearly defined on the site plan

     

    (12) NOT DISCUSSED – ADDRESSED OR RESOLVED

    Taking of Value of view property by limited 20% KEYHOLE view corridor. If 50% of the value of your shoreline property is for the view? Losing 80% the view value will affect the true and real value of your property

    4.2.4 Regulations – Shoreline Buffers

    . 3. Buffer Condition: Shoreline buffers shall be maintained in a predominantly well vegetated and undisturbed condition to ensure that the buffer provides desired buffer functions including shade, habitat, organic inputs, large woody debris, slope stability, water storage, biofiltration, contaminant removal, and fine sediment control. Up to eighty percent (80%) of the buffer area shall be vegetated with native trees and shrubs. The remaining twenty percent (20%), or at least fifteen (15) linear feet of the water frontage, whichever is greater, may be retained as lawn for active use.

    1. Allowed Uses and Buffer Modifications: The Administrator may allow limited clearing, thinning, and/or pruning to accommodate specific shoreline buffer uses and modifications identified in this section. Such allowances shall not require compensatory mitigation provided that the amount and extent of the clearing, limbing, and/or pruning are the minimum necessary to accommodate the allowed use and all other requirements of the Program are met:

    (13) view corridor NOT DISCUSSED OR ADDRESSED limited and selective tree removal, pruning, and/or limbing in the buffer

    1. View Corridors: The Administrator may allow limited and selective tree removal, pruning, and/or limbing in the buffer to create a view of the shoreline when otherwise consistent with this Program. The removal, pruning, and/or limbing shall not require any ground-disturbing equipment and shall not materially alter soils or topography.

    (15) NOT DISCUSSED OR ADDRESSED

    EXPENSE OF SPECIALISTS FOR APPROVAL

    Administrator shall require a view clearance plan

    The Administrator shall require a view clearance plan prepared by a qualified ecologist, forester, arborist, or landscape architect prior to approving the view corridor. The view clearance plan shall identify and describe the location and extent of the proposed tree removal, pruning, and limbing and shall demonstrate compliance with American National Standards Institute (ANSI) A300 Standards for Tree Care Operations (Tree, Shrub, and Other Woody Plant Management – Standard Practices). For properties within designated landslide or erosion hazard areas, the Administrator may require review of the view clearance plan by an engineering geologist or geotechnical engineer to ensure that the proposed removal, pruning, and/or limbing will not cause or exacerbate hazards associated with soil or slope instability. The location and size of the view corridor shall be clearly defined on the site plan.

    1. Private Pathways: Private pathways which provide pedestrian access to the shoreline may be allowed within the buffer provided they are constructed of pervious material, are less than or equal to six (6) feet wide, and follow a route that minimizes erosion and gullying

     

    (16)  NOT DISCUSSED OR ADDRESSED

    Taking of Private property for Public access

    The removal of any reference to  the taking of private property for Public access, Clallam County has the highest public access to public land in WA State. At the Private DOE meeting on June 6, 2012 Gordon White agreed that we have sufficient cause 51% to remove any taking of private property for public access.

     

    (17) NOT DISCUSSED, MENTIONED AND DISMISSED

    EPA. Precautionary setback are not legal

     As questioned by Rob McKenna, why are the DOE SMP setbacks more restrictive the EPA. Precautionary setback are not legal.

     

     (18) LEGALITY OF 80% TAKING  NOT DISCUSSED NOT ADDRESSED

    ONE HUNDRED PERCENT (100%) NON-CONFORMING PROPERTY

    1. At least eighty percent (80%) of the buffer area between the structures and the shoreline and/or critical area is maintained in a naturally vegetated condition.

    What provisions have the DOE made to  stay within the LAW?

    “It is now undisputed that the county had no authority to deprive residents of the use of their own private property.” CAO’S “65 PERCENT” SEIZURE OF PROPERTY PLF Lauds Supreme Court for “Driving a Stake Through One of the Most Extreme Assaults on Property Rights in the U.S.”

    SEATTLE, WA; March 4, 2009: The Washington Supreme Court

    the CAO limited rural landowners with five acres or more to clearing only 35 percent of their property, forcing them to maintain the remaining 65 percent as native vegetation indefinitely. Rural landowners owning less than five acres were allowed to clear only 50 percent of their parcels. Affected landowners had to continue paying taxes on the portion of the property rendered useless by the CAO.

    (19) NOT DISCUSSED OR ADDRESSED

     The provisions of WAC173-26-191 anything that may be  illegal and unconstitutional at a State level, may also be  illegal and unconstitutional at a county level AND shall not be included in Clallam County SMP update.

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    WAC 173-26-191

    Agency filings affecting this section

    Master program contents.

    2 The results of shoreline planning are summarized in shoreline master program policies that establish broad

    shoreline management directives. The policies are the basis for regulations that govern use and development along the shoreline. Some master program policies may not be fully attainable by regulatory means due to the constitutional and other legal limitations on the regulation of private property. The policies may be pursued by other means as provided in RCW 90.58.240. Some

    development requires a shoreline permit prior to construction. A local government evaluates a permit application with respect to the shoreline master program policies and regulations and approves a permit only after determining that the development conforms to them. Except

    where specifically provided in statute, the regulations apply to all uses and development within shoreline jurisdiction, whether or not a shoreline permit is required, and are implemented through an administrative process established by local government pursuant to RCW 90.58.050 and 90.58.140 and enforcement pursuant to RCW

    90.58.210 through 90.58.230.

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    Some master program policies may not be fully attainable by regulatory means due to the constitutional and other legal limitations on the regulation of private property.

    So?  The illegal and unconstitutional policies on private property,

    may be pursued by other means and implemented through an administrative process established by local government

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    Oct 14, 2017 added information on Clallam County SMP Update, paid facilitators MARGARET CLANCY, JIM KRAME .

    No Net Loss of Ecological Function?

    This work was funded through a grant from the National Fish and Wildlife Foundation.

    Prepared by MARGARET CLANCY, JIM KRAMER and Carol MacIlroy

    prohibit new building lots from being created in the 100-year floodplain limit new roads in the floodplain that unregulated development or illegal activities will not occur at a level significant enough to affect flood storage. It will not be possible to fully avoid all impacts from the development of these lots through SMP policies and regulations.

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    So?  The illegal and unconstitutional policies on private property, may be pursued by other means and implemented through an administrative process established by local government?

    Through, an administrative process established by the Clallam County DCD Planning Dept?

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    (19) NOT DISCUSSED OR ADDRESSED

     The provisions of WAC173-26-191

    anything that may be  illegal and unconstitutional at a State level

    may also be  illegal and unconstitutional at a county level

    AND, shall not be included in Clallam County SMP update.

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    If any of you read this complete comment? You understand fully, why I am critical of the two thirds majority of the Advisory Committees that failed to complete their responsibility to the citizens and private property owners of Clallam County, prior to the final SMP Draft Proposal.

    Pearl Rains Hewett

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    WHO WERE THE SMP ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEMBERS

    THAT VOTED TO WALK  AWAY FROM THE TABLE

    LEAVING 19 OR MORE PROPOSED SMP DRAFT ISSUES RELATED TO THE DOE SMP TAKING OF PRIVATE PROPERTY without argument, suggestions or comment?

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    PDF]

    Clallam County Shoreline Master Program Committee …

    www.clallam.net/LandUse/…/ClCoSMPC2013.pdf

    Clallam County

    DOES THE MAKEUP OF THIS COMMITTEE EXPLAINS WHY?

    THEY VOTED TO WALK  AWAY FROM THE TABLE

    LEAVING 19 OR MORE PROPOSED SMP DRAFT ISSUES RELATED TO THE DOE SMP TAKING OF PRIVATE PROPERTY without argument, suggestions or comment?

    *Chris Byrnes: WA Department of Fish & Wildlife

    … *Darlene Schanfald: Olympic Environmental Council; Friends of Miller Peninsula State Park …

    *Jeffree Stewart: WA Department of Ecology …

    *Kevin MacCartney: Sierra Club; Shoreline Property Owner … *Denotes SMP Committee members/alternates attending a majority of …

    SMPC Attendees:

    Andy Stevenson Andy Stevenson … Proposed SMP regulations would allow them to be replaced if …. Chapter 6: Much of this section is directly from the Washington Administrative Code 173.27 or … requirements are specified by state law.

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    Arnold Schouten

    MRC Strategic Plan – Northwest Straits Marine Conservation …

    www.nwstraits.org/uploads/pdf/Orientation/MRC-strategicplans.pdf

    by S Plan

    Arnold Schouten … the Northwest Straits area of Puget Sound, Washington State. …… Ensure that SMP update includes policies that minimize …

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    Bob Vreeland

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    Darlene Schanfald eccentric, Secretary. Olympic Environmental Council

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    George Chandler

    George Eastman

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    Hansi Hals

    Jamestown S’Klallam Tribe – Natural Resources Staff

    www.jamestowntribe.org/programs/nrs/nrs_staff.htm

    Environmental Planning. Hansi Hals. Environmental Planning Program Manager … Natural Resources Department. 1033 Old Blyn Hwy. Sequim, WA 98382.

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    Harry Bell Green Crow

    Jay Petersen 4C’s Engineering

    Jeffree Stewart DOE

    John Cambalik

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    Judy Larson very nasty woman

    2013-04 notes.pdf – Olympus.net

    home.olympus.net/~dungenesswc/docs/…/2013-04%20notes.pdf

    Apr 10, 2013 – Judy Larson served as chair in Scott Chitwood’s absence.

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    Karl Spees

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    Katie Krueger Tribe

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    Kevin MacCartney Sierra Club

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    Mary Pfaff-Pierce (usually not there)

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    Matt Beirne Tribe

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    Matt Heins Tribe

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    Pearl Rains Hewett

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    Randy Johnson tribal rep (aka nasty randy)

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    Ron Gilles Sequim Realtor

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    Theresa Nation WDF

    County Staff & Consultants:

    Margaret Clancy (Consultant) ESA Adolfson’s Compliancy expert with 24 WA State SMP’s Under their belt.

    https://www.google.com/#q=esa+adolfson+margaret+clancy+health+of+puget+sound&start=30

    Shoreline management plan meeting brings unanswered …

    www.citizenreviewonline.org/2011/Oct/shoreline_meeting.html

    Margaret Clancy and Jim Kramer (of Kramer Consulting Inc.), representing … The “Public Participation Strategy” as presented by ESAAdolphson was that “The …. for Puget Sound; Co-Manager AT PUGET SOUND PARTNERSHIP 2006; and Project

    opportunities to improve shoreline management in puget

    www.ecy.wa.gov/programs/sea/shorelines/docs/exec_summary.pdf

    NFWF Project: 2010-0060-002 Protect Puget Sound Shoreline … Margaret Clancy ( ESA Adolfson) … effort to recover Puget Sound by 2020. .

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    Senior planner for SMP Steve Gray

    Sheila Roark Miller

    Hannah Merrill

    Public Attendees

    Jesse Waknitz, Port of PA

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    Glen Irwin, Shoreline Landowner

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    Charles Weller, Shoreline Landowner really a good guy

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    1. McNerthney, Shoreline Landowner

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    Connie Beauvais, CC Planning Commissioner really a good lady

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    Michele d’Hemecourt, NOLT

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    Robert Knapp, James town S’Klallem tribe  (used to be with stream keepers)

    Andy Stevenson Andy Stevenson … Proposed SMP regulations would allow them to be replaced if …. Chapter 6: Much of this section is directly from the Washington Administrative Code 173.27 or … requirements are specified by state law.

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    Arnold Schouten

    MRC Strategic Plan – Northwest Straits Marine Conservation …

    www.nwstraits.org/uploads/pdf/Orientation/MRC-strategicplans.pdf

    by S Plan

    the Northwest Straits area of Puget Sound, Washington State. …… Ensure that SMP update includes policies that minimize …

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    Bob Vreeland

    Andrew Stevenson Port Angeles Arnold Schouten Port …

    www.clallam.net/RealEstate/…/SMPCmemberList1-2012….

    Clallam County

    Bob Vreeland. Port Angeles … Sequim. Olympic Environmental Council; Friends of Miller Peninsula State Park. 7 … Countywide. WA Department of Ecology.

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    Darlene Schanfald eccentric, Secretary. Olympic Environmental Council

    George Chandler

    George Eastman

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    Hansi Hals

    Jamestown S’Klallam Tribe – Natural Resources Staff

    www.jamestowntribe.org/programs/nrs/nrs_staff.htm

    Environmental Planning. Hansi Hals. Environmental Planning Program Manager … Natural Resources Department. 1033 Old Blyn Hwy. Sequim, WA 98382.

    Harry Bell Green Crow

    Jay Petersen 4C’s Engineering

    Jeffree Stewart DOE

    John Cambalik

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    Judy Larson very nasty woman

    2013-04 notes.pdf – Olympus.net

    home.olympus.net/~dungenesswc/docs/…/2013-04%20notes.pdf

    Apr 10, 2013 – Judy Larson served as chair in Scott Chitwood’s absence. … Agenda change: Hannah Merrill will give the SMP Update, instead of Cathy Lear. … US Army Corps of Engineers; EPA; WA Dept. of Ecology; WA State Recreation.

    Karl Spees

    Katie Krueger Tribe

    Kevin MacCartney Sierra Club

    Mary Pfaff-Pierce (usually not there)

    Matt Beirne Tribe

    Matt Heins Tribe

    Pearl Rains Hewett

    Randy Johnson nasty randy (tribal rep.)

    Ron Gilles

    Theresa Nation WDF

    County Staff & Consultants:

    Margaret Clancy (Consultant)

    Steve Gray

    Sheila Roark Miller

    Hannah Merrill

    Public Attendees

    Jesse Waknitz, Port of PA

    Glen Irwin, Shoreline Landowner

    Charles Weller, Shoreline Landowner really a good guy

    1. McNerthney, Shoreline Landowner

    Connie Beauvais, CC Planning Commissioner really a good lady

    Michele d’Hemecourt, NOLT

    Robert Knapp, JS’K

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    REMEMBER… This is just 

    Part Two: The history of us, the collective 3000?

    What happens to one of us, happens to all of us.

    You the elected are responsible for what happens to all of us.

    The Bottom Line….

    As one of the  3000, I shall continue my comments and concerns on the SMP Update

    day after day, week after week, month after month as I have done prolifically since 2011.

    To be continued….


  • Democrats Didn’t Due Diligence on Obamacare

    Mar 9, 2010 DUE DILIGENCE is an investigation or audit of a potential investment to confirm all facts, such as reviewing all financial records, plus anything else deemed material.

    IN THIS CASE  “DUE DILIGENCE” REFERS TO WHAT THE 100% OF ELECTED DEMOCRATS IN CONGRESS SHOULD HAVE DONE BEFORE THEY ALL VOTED ON OBAMACARE.

    Pelosi: “We Have to Pass the Bill So That You Can Find Out What Is In It”

    ▶ 0:10

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV-05TLiiLU

    Mar 9, 2010 – Uploaded by PoliJAM

    Pelosi: “We Have to Pass the Bill So That You Can Find Out What Is In It” … Nancy Pelosi said there was so …

    MARCH 23, 2010 INSTEAD OF DOING WHAT A REASONABLE PERSON WOULD DO… THE 100% OF THE ELECTED DEMOCRATS IN CONGRESS VOTED AND PASSED OBAMACARE, THE UN-AFFORDABLE CARE ACT.

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    NOV 10, 2014 WAS PROFESSOR JONATHAN GRUBER TALKING ABOUT THE STUPID 100% OF VOTERS IN CONGRESS?

    ObamaCare architect: ‘Stupidity’ of voters helped bill pass | TheHill

    thehill.com/policy/…/223578-obamacare-architect-lack-of-transparency-helped-law-p…

    NOV 10, 2014 – An architect of the federal healthcare law said last year that a “lack of transparency” and the “stupidity of the American voter” helped Congress approve ObamaCare. In a clip unearthed Sunday, Massachusetts Institute of Technology Professor Jonathan Gruber appears on a panel and …

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    ON MARCH 23, 2010 THE DEMOCRAT’S  OBAMACARE WAS 100% UN-AFFORDABLE. period

    I did my  DUE DILIGENCE ON OBAMACARE: AND I VOTED FOR TRUMP

    JULY 7, 2017  IS IT JUST ANOTHER OBAMA ADMINISTRATION STUPID MESS FOR TRUMP TO CLEAN UP?

    OR NOT? WHY NOT JUST LET IT CRASH AND BURN AS OBAMA’S NAMESAKE LEGACY?

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    JULY 17, 2017 HOW’S OBAMACARE WORKING OUT FOR WORKING AMERICAN CITIZENS?

    Average Individual Health Insurance Premiums Increased 99% Since …

    news.ehealthinsurance.com/…/average-individual-health-insurance-premiums-increase…

    JAN 23, 2017 – Open enrollment for 2017 health insurance plans under the Affordable Care Act (ACA or Obamacare) began on November 1, … Prior to 2014, eHealth published an annual Cost and Benefits report, which tracked cost and …

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    HOW ARE THE OBAMACARE DEDUCTIBLES WORKING OUT FOR AMERICA’S WORKING FAMILIES?

    Nov 14, 2015“Our DEDUCTIBLE is so high, we practically pay for all of our medical … Her family of four pays premiums of $1,200 a month for coverage with an … like generic drugs or visits to a primary care doctor, before patients …

    Oct 10, 2016, Before Trump was elected, he said “HEALTH CARE IS GOING UP BY NUMBERS THAT ARE ASTRONOMICAL — 68%, 59%, 71%,”

    THAT “IT’S FAR TOO EXPENSIVE” AND THAT “NOT ONLY ARE YOUR RATES GOING UP BY NUMBERS THAT NOBODY’S EVER BELIEVED,

    BUT YOUR DEDUCTIBLES ARE GOING UP,

    SO THAT UNLESS YOU GET HIT BY A TRUCK, YOU’RE NEVER GOING TO BE ABLE TO USE IT.”

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    TRUTH IS: IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS, ACCORDING TO NPR HEALTH POLICY CORRESPONDENT ALISON KODJAK, “THE AVERAGE COST OF HEALTH CARE TO FAMILIES (PAYING DEDUCTIBLES)  BEFORE THEIR INSURANCE KICKS IN HAS RISEN 67%.”

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    I did my  DUE DILIGENCE ON OBAMACARE: AND I VOTED FOR TRUMP

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    JULY 17, 2017 HOW’S OBAMACARE WORKING OUT FOR AMERICAN SENIOR CITIZENS?

    Average? Retired  single  75 year old lady living on a lower income Social Security check

    HOT DAMN, I GOT A 3% SOCIAL SECURITY COST OF LIVING INCREASE

    Medicare costs $107.00 @month, Prescription Drug Plan$72.70 @month.

    Indeed,  I must pay an additional $220.75. AARP supplemental insurance for 100% full coverage, through United Healthcare (no deductible)

    TOTAL PAID OUT FOR MEDICAL INSURANCE $400.45 @MONTH

    Of course the  $200.75 is optional, my choice….  I pay so I won’t lose my house, my IRA and stock, Just in case, I fall and break my hip, spend a week in the hospital and spend another month in a care facility.

     And, I live through  it. 

    Oops,  I decided not to pay it, I am bankrupt,  I’ve lost my IRA, my stock and my house.

    Now, I am  homeless,  retired,  single, broken old lady on a lower income Social Security check.

    Best case scenario, I continue to pay the $200.75, my family inherits my IRA, my stock and my house.

    Worst case scenario I decided not to pay the $200.75, my family has to take care of a bankrupt, homeless broken old lady, and they inherit zip, zero, Nada, nothing.

    I did my  DUE DILIGENCE the care a reasonable person should take before entering into an agreement or a financial transaction with another party.

    As a reasonable old lady, I shall continue to  pay the $200.75@ month  to AARP for my United Healthcare and not become a burden to my family.

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    The bottom line…

    JULY 7, 2017  IS OBAMACARE JUST ANOTHER OBAMA ADMINISTRATION STUPID MESS FOR TRUMP TO CLEAN UP?

    OR NOT?

    WHY NOT JUST LET IT CRASH AND BURN AS OBAMA’S NAMESAKE LEGACY?